VK 4501 P

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General info

VK 4501 P in the garage.

The VK 4501 P is a gift Rank III German heavy tank with a battle rating of 5.3. It was first revealed during the dev server (v1.44) period before the release of Update 1.45 "Steel Generals". When the update was released, the tank was not made available. In 2015, it was a reward for completing the "Christmas/New Year" quests. In July 2016, it was available again as a reward in "Battle of Kursk" tournament during "Summer Maneuvers".

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

The VK 4501 P, like the Tiger I, is a heavy tank with a great gun for long range firing. It has the same amount of armour and the same gun as the Tiger H1 (Though it does not have access to the Pzgr. shell). Size-wise, the VK 4501 P is slightly longer and slightly narrower than the Tiger H1. Despite the similarities, the VK 4501 P is often called a "worse tiger". When played right however, this is not so at all. The main weakness of the VK 4501 P is that it has hull cheeks on the front of its hull. Attempting to angle your armour will only allow the enemy to shoot these weak points, which they can easily pen as they have the same armour values as the side armour. In other words, if fighting an enemy, you should either take cover or turn the front of your hull directly towards them. Because the hull cheeks are angled compared to the front armour, if the enemy is your hull is facing directly towards the enemy the hull cheeks will have more effective armour than your frontal armour, so they are not a weak point when the tank is not angled. The turret traverse speed is also slow, slower than that of the Tiger H1, meaning it's better to snipe.

But what the VK 4501 P lacks in effective armour and turret traverse speed it makes up for reverse speed and a few other advantages. Firstly, the transmission is harder to hit since it's mounted in the rear- you will be harder to immobilize. Secondly, the turret is placed at the front of the vehicle, so it doesn't need to expose as much of the tank when peeking out of cover to shoot an enemy. These two advantages go great with its next, and biggest advantage: its phenomenal reverse speed.Strangely enough, even though it's a heavy tank, the VK 4501 P has one of the fastest reverse speeds in game, tied with the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P), but the Spähpanzer Ru 251 holds the current title for the best reverse speed in War Thunder. Because of this attribute, the VK is better for Peek-a-Boo tactics (behind cover, over-extend and shoot, go back in cover to reload). than the Tiger H1. Whereas the Tiger H1 can angle and take more shots, the VK 4501 P is much better at shooting from and retreating into cover, essentially meaning it doesn't have to take those shots in the first place.

Vehicle characteristics

Tactics

Specific enemies worth noting

Counter-tactics

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent reverse speed- Almost as fast as its forward speed.
  • Great turret armour.
  • Great gun capable of defeating all other Tier 3 vehicles.
  • Good frontal armour.
  • Neutral steering.
  • Weighs slightly less than the Tiger H1.
  • Better turret placement than the Tiger H1, you expose less of your tank when pulling out of cover to snipe targets to your side.
  • Transmission is mounted in the rear, making the vehicle harder to immobilize.

Cons:

  • Bad off road top speed.
  • Ammo racks offer great targets.
  • Slow turning speed.
  • Turret traverse is second slowest on heavy tank line for Germany.
  • Low maneuverability, susceptible to being outflanked by more quicker adversaries.
  • Armour cheeks become weak spots if angling.

Specifications

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Armaments

1 x 8.8 cm KwK 36 (80 Rounds)
1 x 7.92 mm MG 34 (1,800 Rounds)

Main armament

1 x 8.8 cm KwK 36
  • Ammunition Capacity: 80 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 16°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 4.8°/s (Stock), 6.6°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 9.6s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 8.8 cm KwK 36
  • Ammunition Capacity: 80 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 16°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 4.8°/s (Stock), 5.6°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 9.6s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 8.8 cm KwK 36
  • Ammunition Capacity: 80 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 16°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 4.8°/s (Stock), 5.6°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 9.6s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
Ammunition
Ammunition Penetration in mm @ 90° Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay
in m:
Fuse sensitivity
in mm:
Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 0% 50% 100%
PzGr 39 165 162 151 138 126 116 APCBC 773 10 0.8 28 108.8 +4° 42° 27° 19°
Sprgr 13 13 13 13 13 13 HE 820 11 0.1 0.5 935 +0° 11° 10°
Hl.Gr 39 110 110 110 110 110 110 HEAT 600 7.6 0.0 0.3 1100 +0° 28° 21° 17°
Shell types
  • PzGr 39
    You should stick with this type of shell as it's the best. It will do incredible damage to any tank you encounter, except SPAA, AA guns, or AI artillery. You may struggle with some heavier tanks like the IS-1, IS-2, or American heavy tanks at long ranges, but well placed shots from close range or sides will do the job; all other medium and light tanks will be history as soon as this shell make a contact with them. This shell, however, will almost always over-penetrate all but the most armoured SPAA vehicles, so it is best to use HE or machine gun fire.
  • Hl.Gr. 39
    The heat shell is best avoided as it deals less damage than the APBC Shell and has a much lower muzzle-velocity, meaning that you have to aim ridiculously high for sniping. It also offers less penetration than APBC at all ranges.
  • Sprgr. 39
    The HE shell is completely ineffective against all but SPAA or the AI artillery on the Kursk and Ash River maps, and the machine gun mounted on the Tiger has proven quite capable of dealing with these. Keep a small supply of this shell on hand if you plan to flank the enemy and take out their SPAA or artillery, but avoid them for everything else.
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Tiger (P).
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
80 67 (+13) 53 (+27) 40 (+40) 27 (+53) 14 (+66) (+79) Left side empty: 40 (+40) Yes

Secondary armament

1 x 7.92 mm MG 34 machine gun (coaxial)

Crews

  • Commander
  • Gunner
  • Loader
  • Driver
  • Assistant Driver

Total: 5 Crew members

Armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Cupola)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 102 mm (9°) Front plate
62 mm (78°), 102 mm (30°) Front glacis
82 mm (46°) Lower glacis
82 mm 82 mm 26 mm
Turret 100 mm Turret front
90 - 200 mm Gun mantlet
82 mm 82 mm 26 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 80 mm 26 mm

Notes:

  • Turret front covered by gun mantlet has variable thickness depending on exact place, ranging from 90 to 200 mm of armour.
  • The side of the hull where the suspension lies is only 62 mm thick compared to the top area, so beware of this glaring weak point.
  • The rear of the hull and turret has some tracks attached that provides an extra 30 mm of armour protection.

Engine & mobility

Weight: 57.0 ton

Max Speed: 43 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 800 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 14.03 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 34°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 985 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 17.28 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 43°
Weight: 57.0 ton

Max Speed: 39 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 548 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 9.61 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 36°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 620 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 10.88 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 41°
Weight: 57.0 ton

Max Speed: 39 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 548 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 9.61 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 36°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 620 hp @ 3000 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 10.88 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 41°

Modules and improvements

As a premium vehicle, the modules are all already unlocked for use.

History of creation and combat usage

Development

In 1942, a program to submit a heavy tank design weighing 45 tons mounting the 88 mm KwK 36 cannon derived from the successful 88 mm FlaK gun was launched on May 21. Two companies, Henschel and Porsche were contracted to design the tank hull that could mount the turret designed by Krupp.

Porsche's development for this project was to upgrade their existing VK 30.01 (P) medium tank design, adapting parts from the tank into their new heavy tank. This heavy tank designed by Porsche was designated the VK 45.01 (P) and was powered by twin air-cooled gasoline Porsche Type 101/1 engines that were in the rear of the tank. Each engine drives a separate generator on each side of the tank that would then each power one of the two electric motors for each track. This design resulted in the tank being prone to breakdown due to complexity, high-maintenance, and deficiency in copper quality available for use.

The vehicle was displayed to Hitler on his birthday on April 20, 1942 alongside the Henschel version VK 45.01 (H). Unlike the Henschel variant, which had the turret mounted mid-hull, the Porsche version had the turret mounted far forward on the hull in order to make space for its rear engines and drive system. The tank was then evaluated by a technical commission headed by Albert Speer and it was found that the Henschel design was superior to the Porsche design as it was more mobile, more reliable, and easier to enter production. The Henschel version was accepted into service by the German Wehrmacht and was designated the Tiger I, while the Porsche variant was sidelined. Only five VK 45.01 (P) were created during the trials before its rejection.

Usage

Before even the evaluations began, Porsche was so confident that their design would be chosen that one hundred chassis of the VK 45.01 (P) was already produced. With the Henschel version chosen, the chassis were no longer needed to be made into a tank format, but it would be a waste to simply scrap them. These chassis were converted into case mate structures that could mount the new 88 mm Pak 43 cannon, which was longer and more powerful than the KwK 36 on the Tiger I. This would be called the Ferdinand tank destroyer, later redesignated as the Elefant.Three VK 45.01 (P) was also converted into recovery vehicles designated the Bergepanzer Tiger(P).

Out of the five VK 45.01 (P) produced from its development to its rejection, only one saw service in World War II. The tank had the chassis number 150013 and was converted into a command tank, thus was designated the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P). As a command tank, the tank would have much more radios than usual to allow for command communication between tank units and headquarters. Another feature on the Panzerbefehlswagen VI (P) was that an extra 100 mm of armour was welded onto the front hull armour, bringing the original 100 mm hull armour to 200 mm effective in thickness. The tank was used by Hauptmann Grillenberg in turret number 003 and the tank saw service on the Eastern Front with the Ferdinand units, serving in Tank Destroyer Battalion 653. It was deployed in April 1944, but was then lost in July of the same year.

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the VK 4501 P from live.warthunder.com.

Sights

Videos

Dev server footage end 2014





Additional information (links)

Obtainable events

References


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Icon-country-der.png VK 4501 P
Nation Germany
Type Heavy tank
Rank 3
Battle Rating 5.3

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Weight
57,000 kg
125,663 lb
Number of Crew 5
Hull armour thickness
102/82/82/26 mm
4.01/3.23/3.23/1.02 inches
Statistics
Engine power (stock)
800 hp
548 hp
548 hp
Engine power (upgraded)
985 hp
620 hp
620 hp
HP/ton ratio (stock)
14.03
14.26
9.61
9.77
9.61
9.77
HP/ton ratio (Upgraded)
17.28
17.56
10.88
11.05
10.88
11.05
Max speed
43 km/h
23.3 mph
39 km/h
21.9 mph
39 km/h
21.9 mph
Main Weapon
1 x 88 mm KwK 36 Cannon
Ammo stowage 80 rounds
Vertical guidance -8°/16°
Secondary Weapon
1 x MG 34 Machine gun
Ammo stowage 1,800 rounds
Mount Coaxial
Economy
Required RP N/A
Vehicle cost N/A
Crew training cost 10,000 SL
Max repair cost*
3,910 SL
3,960 SL
4,840 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
1d 23h
2d 19h
3d 03h
Free repair time (Upgraded)
15h 47m
22h 34m
1d 01h
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