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Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -[[User:U64962917|U64962917]] ([[User talk:U64962917|talk]]) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
  
== Description ==
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== Award Request images ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
 
  
== General info ==
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Hello there!
=== Survivability and armour ===
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First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki.
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I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?
The R3 T20 FA-HS has light armour able to protect it against .50 cal machine guns from the front and medium-calibre machine guns from the sides. Any autocannon or tank cannon is able to shred through this armour. The R3 has an internal layout with the crew separated apart, allowing it to survive damage from non-explosive shot.
 
  
=== Mobility ===
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[[File:Water multistrike.jpg|none]]--[[User:U28580205|U28580205]] ([[User talk:U28580205|talk]]) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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: Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
  
{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 135|rbMinHp= 84|<!--AoAweight=(optional) -->}}
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==tank mobility==
 
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Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use <nowiki>{{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|<!--AoAweight=(optional) -->}}</nowiki>--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
The R3 T20 FA-HS is very mobile, able to outmanoeuvre most tanks of its rank and is reliant in this to stay alive.
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: That's even better. Thanks. --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 
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::I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here [[Template:TankMobility]]--[[User:U30585107|U30585107]] ([[User talk:U30585107|talk]]) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|Oerlikon KAD (20 mm)}}
 
 
 
The 20 mm Oerlikon cannon is able to fight both aircraft as well as lightly armoured targets from the front.
 
 
 
Upgraded, the gun has access to 20 mm rounds able to penetrate up to 50 mm of armour, enabling the tank to shred any tanks that expose their sides to this vehicle. Some heavier tanks are still too heavily armoured on the sides for the gun to penetrate, but these generally don't show up unless you are uptiered.
 
 
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The R3 is designated as an SPAA, and performs in this role extremely effectively. The autocannon has a rapid rate of fire and high velocity, allowing the R3 to tear aircraft to shreds. With accurate fire, a short burst will obliterate most aircraft in very little time. When the skies are clear and there are no more planes to shoot down, the R3 becomes a highly flexible vehicle, being able to zip around the map at high speed performing various tasks. Early game it makes an excellent recon vehicle, being able to capture points, oversee the battlefield and destroy enemy vehicles.
 
 
 
With over 50 mm of penetration and its exceptional speed, the R3 makes short work of British and American medium tanks from the side and will shred light tanks and other SPAA. The R3 does not have the penetration to handle heavy tanks and so tanks like the KV-1 should be avoided.
 
 
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
* With the best belt, it is possible to penetrate many tanks, including the sides of the Sherman and many low-rank British and Soviet tanks
 
* Twin-axis stabilizer
 
* Immensely fast, often the first vehicle on the cap
 
* Seemingly invincible wheels
 
* Front plate has armour thickness sufficient to deflect most machine gun rounds, and even certain light cannon rounds
 
* Immense fire rate, a 20 mm firing at 996 rounds per minute can do quite a number on low rank aircraft, often snapping wings off IL-2s
 
* Very little lead is required to score hits on planes
 
* Somehow capable of righting itself even when flipped on its roof
 
* By aiming backwards and down and firing while driving, the recoil can be used as a turbo to propel the light vehicle forward
 
* Can bounce rounds with its sloped frontal armour
 
* Can swim
 
 
 
'''Cons:'''
 
* Very little side and roof armour, can be very easily dispatched by anything larger than a 7.7 mm, in most cases can be destroyed by M2s mounted on both tanks and planes
 
* Engine is very fragile and susceptible to machine gun fire from behind, concentrated 7.7 mm fire can actually destroy the engine
 
* Sub-par reverse gear compared with its forward gear
 
* Tips over ''very'' often, especially when firing
 
* As with many wheeled vehicles, awful in the sand
 
* Due to its size, can be very easily crushed
 
* Hard collisions damage modules and can often injure or incapacitate the crew
 
* The gun is unable to fully elevate
 
* A widely hated vehicle by enemy players, you will be a primary target for both aircraft and ground vehicles
 
* 12.7mm machine gun fire can devastate vehicle
 
* Recoil will cause the suspension to sway, meaning that a continuous burst will have to be adjusted while firing
 
 
 
== History ==
 
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The '''OTO Melara R3 Capraia''' was a light reconnaissance vehicle which was developed as a private venture by OTO Melara of Italy. Derived from OTO Melara's R2.5 ''Gorgona'' armoured policing vehicle, the R3 ''Capraia'' was first presented at the 1982 Italian Naval Exhibition held in Genoa. The R3 shared its automotive parts with the R2.5, but had a body consisting of angled aluminium armour with in places a maximum thickness of 32 mm, providing enough protection against 7.62 mm NATO small arms fire and shell splinters.
 
 
 
A number of armament options were proposed by OTO Melara. These included:
 
* the R3 T12.7 FA, armed with an externally mounted 12.7 mm M2 HB machine gun in a turret with full 360° traverse and a maximum elevation of -10° to +50°;
 
* the R3 T7.65 FA, armed with an externally mounted 7.65 mm machine gun in a turret with full 360° traverse and a maximum elevation of -10° to +25°;
 
* the R3 T20 FA-HS, armed with an externally mounted Oerlikon KAD-B17 20 mm cannon in a turret with full 360° traverse and a maximum elevation of -10° to +60°;
 
* the R3 Folgore ×2 FA, armed with two externally mounted Breda Folgore anti-tank missiles and a secondary 7.65 mm machine gun;
 
* the [[R3 T106 FA]], armed with two externally mounted 106 mm M40 type recoilless rifles; and
 
* the R3 TOW, armed with an externally mounted launcher for a Hughes TOW ATGM system.
 
 
 
However, despite its high performance and the possibility of using various weapons, the Italian military did not express any interest in the OTO Melara R3 Capraia. Following the conclusion of its evaluation by the military, the R3 prototypes were disposed of.
 
 
 
== Media ==
 
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
 
 
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
 
 
== External links ==
 
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the tank;''
 
* ''other literature.''
 
 
 
{{Italy anti-aircraft vehicles}}
 

Revision as of 15:50, 9 February 2020

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Hello Colok76286, it will be better for people to use this talk page to contact you and post questions/information as all posts here are immediately viewable and do not require a moderator to approve the message which is necessary on the User page. You can use your user page to annotate areas you are working on (such as the torpedoes) and maybe provide status updates on what you are specifically working on (it's up to you it is your space to work with). Also, using the talk page alerts you when you log back in that someone has left a new message for you, whereas this does not happen with the User Page. Good luck working with the torpedoes, they do need a little love and there is a lot of good information out there about them. -AN_TRN_26 (talk) 12:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Award Request images

Hello there! First of all, thank you for all the edits you've been doing thus far on the Wiki. I was looking through all the past edits in the last month, and noticed all the image work you and Jareel did. Given that many of the requested/missing award images are now up, do you still need the original award images?

--Inceptor57 (talk) 07:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I don't need the pictures I uploaded anymore. You can totally delete them. --Colok76286 (talk) 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

tank mobility

Hi! Thank you for your hard work but I basically made all the edits you've done obsolete. The wiki has a database with the tank weights, max speed, and spaded engine horsepowers(you can see them in the sidebar) so I made a template that taps into that and generated everything aside from stock engine power and addon armor weight. If you want to switch to the template then use {{tankMobility|abMinHp= number|rbMinHp= number|<!--AoAweight=(optional) -->}}--blastedryan (talk) 16:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

That's even better. Thanks. --Colok76286 (talk) 21:07, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
I don't think anyone has done any major errorchecking on the numbers. So if it's just 1 off like for max speed, I'd give it a pass as a rounding issue. If it's more than that send a message to the wiki admins. In the mean time you can overwrite the numbers with the parameters shown here Template:TankMobility--blastedryan (talk) 15:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)