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# {{Specs-Card|code=it_otobreda_sidam_25_mistral}}
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|market=Hawk H-75A-2 (Germany)
 
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{{About
 
| about = gift fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
| usage = other versions
 
| link = P-36 (Family)
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]] as a reward for the [[Season: Recon under fire|first public season of the World War Mode]]. This fighter is a U.S. built aircraft sold to the French, captured by the Germans during the French armistice and then provided to the Finnish Air Force for use against the Russians.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian SPAA {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
 
 
In the early 1930s, the Curtiss-Wright Corporation began a private venture to build a fighter aircraft which was a revolutionary departure from earlier cloth-covered biplanes of World War I. This project aircraft under development was named the Curtiss Hawk Model 75 (later it would be known by P-36 Hawk, Hawk-75 – or just H-75 and Mohawk. The P-36 was an all-metal monoplane (although the control surfaces were fabric-covered) with a 900 hp radial engine, enclosed cockpit and retractable landing gear.<ref name=MilFac></ref> Even though this aircraft touted some of the state-of-the-art development in aircraft design, several aspects remained lacking, such as the original two machine guns firing through the propeller arc, a 7.62 mm and 12.7 mm and other critical components such as the absence of armour in the cockpit and self-sealing fuel tanks.
 
 
By May 1935 the first prototype flew and attained speeds of 281 mph (452 km/h) and reaching an altitude of 10,000 ft (3,000 m). It wasn’t long before the original 900 hp Write XR-1670-5 radial engine was replaced with an upgrade Wright XR-1820-39 Cyclone at 950 hp and several modifications to the body of the aircraft was completed like the addition of scalloped rear windows which significantly improved the pilots rear view (although the hump on the back of the aircraft still blocked a significant portion of the view).<ref name=JoeB></ref><ref name=AviHis></ref> This version of the aircraft was designated as Model 75B while oddly enough the earlier version with the 1670-5 was listed as a Model 75D.
 
 
 
In early competitions against the [[User:U5724584#P-35A|Seversky P-35A]] saw the underpowered and more expensive P-35A as the winner in the U.S. government's eyes, however, the United States Army Air Command (USAAC) went ahead and placed an order for three Y1P-36 prototypes as a backup contingency fighter. When delivered, the Y1P-36 (Model 75E) had been outfitted with the 900 hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-13 Twin Wasp engine. Due to this version of the aircraft performing so well, an order for 210 P-36-A fighters was placed.<ref name=JoeB></ref><ref name=MilFac></ref>
 
 
 
The P-36 was known as an outstanding turning aircraft due to its extremely low wing loading and had a beefy power-to-weight ratio of 0.186 hp/lb that placed this aircraft as one of the best climbing aircraft of the time.<ref name=AviHis></ref> One drawback noted was that the P-36 was not outfitted with a supercharger which hampered its ability to operate at high altitudes, requiring it to stay under 10,000 ft in altitude.<ref name=MilFac></ref> For all of this aircraft’s positive attributes and unfortunate shortcomings, it performed well mostly for other nations such as Finland where the Hawk was known as "Sussu" or Finnish for "Sweetheart" as between 58 Finnish pilots flying the Hawk, they scored 190.3 aerial victories. The P-36 was the proving ground and stepping stone to the later great fighter, the [[P-40 (Family)|P-40]].
 
 
 
The {{PAGENAME}} export version of the [[P-36C]] which is an all-round very effective fighter in War Thunder. It has an excellent turn rate and its top speed of 560 km/h at low altitude is very impressive, as it can outrun most of its competitors. Without a turbocharger, this aircraft suffers at altitudes above 3,000 m (10,000 ft). Its fiercest opponent is the [[Bf 109 E-1|Bf 109]], against which it loses most notably in the climbing department. To survive against these in realistic battles and simulator battles, it is important not to use WEP outside of combat, as whereas WEP itself is infinite, the plane's cooling capacity is not – attentive pilots will notice that it decreases with time if they push WEP too hard — at the beginning of a flyout, the H-75A-1's engine will only show signs of overheating at 235ºC(455ºF), whereas after pushing WEP too hard, the engine will begin to struggle at 225ºC. Engine management is as such one of the crucial skills for mastering this plane. With the engine weakened from overheating, a player will find it hard to beat a Bf 109 if in an energy disadvantage. With a healthier engine, the pilot can keep the engine roaring at full power so as to endure sustained manoeuvring without eventually stalling and dropping like a rotten apple from a tree.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
 
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The {{PAGENAME}} is a relatively easy fighter aircraft to fly and requires only a relatively short space to both take-off and land. Due to the fantastically low wing loading rate of 23.9 lb/ft<sup>2</sup><ref name=JoeB></ref>, this fighter is an excellent turning aircraft and accompanied by a strong rudder can spiral climb easily, especially during WEP cycles. This aircraft has the advantage of being both a turn fighter and a Boom & Zoom fighter, depending on the situation, type of aircraft which are flying against and mission type. The {{PAGENAME}} will out-turn many fighters of its rank and can prove difficult to follow if attempting to shoot it down. Compared to the [[P-36G]], the {{PAGENAME}} utilise a weaker engine which makes it difficult for the German Hawk to comparably keep up. Still, the trade-off for more guns vs. slightly hampered flight model is well worth it.
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,810 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
| ??? || ??? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || 343
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,810 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
| 585 || 560 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 20.5 || 21.0 || 15.1 || 10.6 || 343
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
==== Details ====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
! Combat flaps
 
! Take-off flaps
 
! Landing flaps
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
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|}
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Limits
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! +
 
! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 520 || ~11 || ~6
 
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|}
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
 
|-
 
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
 
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
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| < 420 || < 185 || < 360 || > 300
 
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|}
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 3,658 m || 900 hp || 1,049 hp
 
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|}
 
 
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 9.5 mm steel plate behind the pilot.
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=== Mobility ===
 
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As with many early pre-war fighters, not much emphasis was put on the survivability of the aircraft. The best course of action was for the pilot to not let anyone get behind them. The {{PAGENAME}}’s only sources of protection for the pilot is the engine block and the 9.5 mm (angled at 24° for effective thickness of 13 mm), that being said, depending on the engine block to save the pilot may do so at the expense of the engine, thus requiring the pilot to glide back to base if possible or bailout. There are also two unprotected oil coolers if which are punctured, the aircraft will leak oil until depleted eventually causing the engine to seize up.
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 (7.5 mm)}}
 
 
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
* 2 x 7.5 mm Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 machine guns, nose-mounted (600 rpg = 1,200 total)
 
* 4 x 7.5 mm Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)
 
 
 
Armament weaknesses found in the early [[P-36A]] were addressed when outfitting the {{PAGENAME}} fighter as instead of installing a 12.7 mm machine gun and a 7.62 mm, six 7.5 mm Mle 38s were installed. Lacking the punch of the 12.7 mm, this fighter has to make do without the more powerful machine gun. While the engine cowling was already crowded and no more machine guns could be centrally mounted which required wing modifications to install two more 7.5 machine guns, one in each wing. For this aircraft, two machine guns are mounted in the engine cowl and fire through the propeller arc while the other two are mounted one in each wing. Due to the wing-mounted machine guns, convergence is a factor to deal with with the optimal range being 100 - 200 m, anything beyond this will still work, however, the bullets significantly start losing their punch. The increase in armament increased the damage output ability of the fighter, however, the next generation H-75, the [[Hawk H-75A-2 (Germany)|H-75A-2]] increased the deadliness of the fighter by adding two more wing-mounted machine guns for a total of six guns. Options in ammunition will allow the pilot to select the type best suited for their mission whether it be as an interceptor, ground target hunter or a stealthy pouncer.
 
  
;Option 1 Configuration (optimal 200 - 400 m convergence)
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The SIDAM 25 (Mistral) is armed with 4 x 25 mm cannons, with the main purpose of destroying aircraft. Like almost all SPAA armaments, these cannons are not designed to disable or destroy tanks. It is capable of destroying other SPAA, and some SPGs, but it is limited in its anti-tank effectiveness. It carries 660 rounds for each cannon, giving a total of 2,640 rounds.
*7.5 mm x 1 = Tracer rounds
 
*7.5 mm x 3 = Stealth round
 
* One machine gun should be set up with tracer rounds to allow for tracking of shots, especially when walking the rounds onto the target, however, the other 7.5 mm guns should be set up with stealth rounds as providing a good mix of armour-piercing and incendiary rounds without the tell-tale tracers. Without the tell-tale show of tracers flying by, the pilot of the aircraft may assume a weakly armed aircraft is on their tail with intermittent tracers from the single 7.5 mm machine gun. This can be a huge advantage for the attacking aircraft by sneaking in a large amount of lead and incendiaries while still having the ability to walk in the shots with the tracers (especially helpful in realistic and simulator battles where the aiming helper is not available for use).
 
  
==== 7.5 mm ammunition ====
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=== Additional armament ===
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! colspan="1" | Belt Type
 
! colspan="1" | 1<sup>st</sup> Round
 
! colspan="1" | 2<sup>nd</sup> Round
 
! colspan="1" | 3<sup>rd</sup> Round
 
! colspan="1" | 4<sup>th</sup> Round
 
! colspan="1" | 5<sup>th</sup> Round
 
! colspan="1" | 6<small>th</small> Round
 
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| Default
 
| T
 
| Ball
 
| Ball
 
| Ball
 
| AP
 
| I
 
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| Universal
 
| T
 
| AP
 
| I
 
|
 
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|
 
|-
 
| Tracers
 
| AP
 
| T
 
| T
 
| T
 
| T
 
|
 
|-
 
|Stealth
 
| AP
 
| AP
 
| AP
 
| I
 
| I
 
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|-
 
! colspan="7"|<small><small>T = ''Tracer bullet''; Ball = ''Omni purpose bullet''; I = ''Incendary bullet''; AP = ''Armor piercing bullet''</small></small>
 
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This aircraft does not have the option to select any additional suspended armaments nor does it have any defensive weapons to counter any attackers.
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The SIDAM also possesses 6 surface-to-air (SAM) Launchers, for its Mistral missiles. These can be guided by the radar system onto the target and have an approximate effective range of 4 km. However jets will most likely to evade the missiles if fired from this range, so it is suggested that you wait to fire these at a closer range than 4 km where it will be more difficult for them to react and evade. The history section (at the bottom of this page) suggests that using the cannon at short range, and missiles for longer range targets, is the best tactic.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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Energy retention lends this fighter to be a great zoomer, dropping in for a shot and then speeding back up to regain the energy advantage. With this aircraft having such a low stall speed; it makes a great fighter to practice Rope-a-dope energy depletion manoeuvres. This requires the H-75 pilot to bait another fighter into following them in a climb, as the attacker attempts to get guns on, the H-75 pilot can start to spiral climb which will cause the attacking aircraft to pull a tighter circle haemorrhaging their energy. If done correctly, the attacking fighter will stall out and be completely helpless as they begin to fall back to the ground allowing the P-36 to roll over or Split-S and take out the stalled fighter below.
 
 
 
Most fighters are typically only good at one thing whether it's turning, speed or weapon systems, however, the {{PAGENAME}} is good at two, speeding and turning. This fighter has the ability to not only zoom attack but can also turn fight competitively with most other aircraft. There are few aircraft (notably the A6M Zero fighters of the Imperial Japanese Navy or the Bf 109 of the German Luftwaffe) which may outshine while turning or climbing, however, when utilizing flaps and rudder while turning, the {{PAGENAME}} can manoeuvre into some tight turns and allow guns to get on target.
 
 
 
Even with all of its power and mobility, the {{PAGENAME}} is a relatively fragile aircraft. Without much armour on the aircraft, many of its critical systems are exposed and it will not take much even from lower calibre machine guns to cause fuel fires, oil leaks and the engine shutdowns, not to mention a knocked out pilot. Situational awareness is critical to potentially know not only where the targets are, but also the enemy aircraft which are manoeuvring into position and ready to pounce. The weakness of only having two machine guns will require the pilot to get in close (50 – 200 m) to make the most of their shots as anywhere past 150 m, bullet penetration drops off considerably.
 
  
=== Manual Engine Control ===
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The SIDAM, with its radar guidance and a powerful arsenal of weaponry, is more than capable of taking down most aircraft within range. Helicopters, with their flare, present an issue for the missiles, but unlike the Stormer HVM, the SIDAM has guns! This allows you to dispatch a helicopter with ease, although you may choose to fire missiles to take down a particularly experienced player, as this will not only give you an opportunity to kill him, your teammates may be able to take him down. The SIDAM, like most other anti-aircraft vehicles, has virtually no useful armour and is very susceptible to incoming fire including some heavy machine gun rounds. Fortunately, it has a reasonable range, so it should be able to protect its team from a distance. As the history does point out, the crews assigned to this vehicle tended to fire missiles at long-range targets and then utilised the cannons at closer targets. Unfortunately, its missiles launchers, although a great asset, is also on the top of the turret, leaving them very exposed. Much like most anti-aircraft and missile tanks, if these missiles are hit while still in the launchers, they will most likely detonate and cause damage to the vehicle.
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" | Mixer
 
! rowspan="2" | Pitch
 
! colspan="3" | Radiator
 
! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
 
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
|-
 
! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Type
 
|-
 
| Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Combined || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
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=== Modules ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="1" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
| I
 
| Fuselage repair
 
| Radiator
 
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| Offensive 7 mm
 
|-
 
| II
 
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| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
|
 
|-
 
| III
 
| Wings repair
 
| Engine
 
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| New 7 mm MGs
 
|-
 
| IV
 
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| Engine injection
 
| Cover
 
|
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
  
'''Pros:'''
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* Possesses both cannons and missiles
* High climb rate, especially with war emergency power applied
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* Has a reasonable mobility
* Impressive roll and turn rate, highly efficient Immelman and split-S manoeuvres
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* Possesses a radar
* Strong rudder, excels in wing-over and hammerhead stall manoeuvres
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* High rate of fire from cannons
* Slow stall speed (about 55 mph or 88.5 kph)
 
* Six machine guns (comparable to [[P-36G]])
 
* Large ammo reserve of 3,200 rounds
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* Hard to control at high speeds (control surface stiffening)
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* Has inadequate armour to withstand large calibre cannon fire
* Armament is adequate against bombers and other aircraft with rear-facing gunners
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* Can only use cannons against ground targets, missiles can only be utilised for anti-air attacks
* Lack of adequate armour renders engine, fuel tanks, oil coolers and virtually defenceless
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* Missile launchers are highly exposed on the top of the tank
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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Modernization plans for the SIDAM 25 were drawn up in late 1994, when Italian engineers proposed the up-arming of the vehicle with Mistral surface-to-air missiles in order to give it better long-range capabilities and improve its performance as a whole.
The P-36 Hawk began its life at Curtiss Aeroplane Company as a design in the early 1930s. A private venture by Curtiss, the project was headed up by Donovan A. Berlin, a former Northrop aircraft company engineer who was the principal designer and incorporated design portions of early Northrop designs.<ref name=MilFac></ref> The P-36, at this time known as the X-17Y, was a stretch from the biplane years by utilizing an all-metal low-wing monoplane with fabric-covered control surfaces. This aircraft also featured retractable landing gear, which utilized a design put forward by Boeing Aircraft Company and required royalties to be paid to Boeing for every aircraft in which this landing gear was installed.<ref name=JoeB></ref><ref name=AviHis></ref> Initial weapon load-outs included the standard 12.7 mm and 7.62 mm machine guns, both of which were mounted in the forward fuselage deck and fired through openings in the cowling, synchronized to fire through the propeller arc.<ref name=AviHis></ref>
 
 
 
The initial flight took place in 1935 and when it was presented at a competition the next year, the competitor aircraft (Seversky SEV-2XP/P-35) was heavily damaged in transit. While Seversky took their aircraft back to perform repairs and modifications, Curtiss took the opportunity during this time to make some modifications of their own, and namely replacing the Wright XR-1670-5 twin-row air-cooled radial engine with the upgraded Write XR-1820-39 Cyclone radial.<ref name=MilFac></ref> With the Seversky aircraft repaired, the competition was back on. Even though the Seversky aircraft underperformed and was more expensive than Curtis X-17Y, it was selected and an order of 77 aircraft were put in for, however later the Material Division of the USAAC contacted Curtis and put in an order for three examples as they were becoming nervous about Seversky's ability to deliver their aircraft on time. Curtiss worked on modifying the P-36 by again upgrading the motor and working on the cockpit, especially increasing the amount of area behind the cockpit where the pilot could see. During the 1937 competition, test pilots who piloted the P-36 all commented that the aircraft responded to pilot input favourable and at all speeds and even noted that it handled well on the ground while taxiing. With such a reaction from the test pilots, the USAAC put in an order for 210 P-36A fighters, which at that time was the largest single US military aircraft order since World War I.<ref name=JoeB></ref>
 
 
 
As the P-36 fighters began to roll off the assembly line, they were shipped to US squadrons, however, problems developed with the aircraft which left them grounded while waiting repairs. The P-36 continued to have problems, however, four P-36A fighters stationed at Wheeler Air Field in Hawaii were able to get airborne and attach a flight of Nakajima B5N1 torpedo bombers, claiming two shot down and gaining the first US fighter aircraft "kills" of the Pacific War. Despite this action, the P-36 fighters were withdrawn from combat outfits and sent to training units for new pilots to train on. While the P-36 did not see much action with the U.S., it did see combat action while flown by other nations such as France and Finland where they put the little fighter to the test and were highly successful with it. 10 P-36A training fighters were transferred in 1942 to Brazil where they remained in service until 1954.<ref name=JoeB></ref>
 
 
 
The {{PAGENAME}} was part of the second production batch of Hawk 75 aircraft built for France with around 100 built. Many of these aircraft were captured during the fall of France and were shipped to other countries friendly with Germany and were considered challenging aircraft for the allies to fly against.
 
  
=== In-game description ===
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The missiles were to be distributed between two launchers, with each launcher containing three missiles. As such, the vehicle could then utilize the missiles against targets at long range, whilst preserving the cannon armament for close-range engagements.
French order of Hawk 75A-1 airplanes was fully fulfilled between December 1938 and April 1939. Some time later, the French ordered another 100 planes and 150 engines for the French Armée de l'Air. This time, they were Curtiss Hawk 75A-2 fighters.
 
  
These planes differed from the previous Hawk 75A-1 model in their Pratt & Whitney R-1830-SC3-G Twin Wasp engine with a maximum output of 1,050 hp and another pair of 7.5 mm Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 (Browning) machine guns installed in the wing panels with 500 rounds each. The overall number of machine guns installed on the fighter had now reached six.
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The modernization of the SIDAM 25s with Mistral SAMs was expected to begin in the early 2000s, alongside some other potential upgrades as well.
  
A plant in Buffalo produced the components for these planes, and their final assembly took place in an SNCAC plant in Bourges. In order to bring the new fighters into service more quickly, another assembly line was set up at an aircraft plant in Toulouse. The first Hawk 75A-2 was delivered to the French in May 1939.
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From the spring of 1939, the new planes were put into service in fighter groups (Groupes de Chasse, GC) in the French Armée de l'Air. The I/4, I/5 and II/5 groups switched to the Hawk 75A from the Dewoitine D.501/510, and the GC II/4 group was formed purely with the American fighters. On 8 September 1939, Hawk 75As from the GC II/4 group shot down a German Messerschmitt Bf.109E, the first conquest of the allies in World War II. The Curtiss Hawk 75 accounted for the majority of 27 aviation victories won by the French in the first month of battles.
 
 
 
German forces captured a unit of French Armée de l'Air Curtiss Hawk 75s and gave them to their allies – the Finns. Finland received nine Hawk 75A-2s and 18 Hawk 75A-3s. The planes received from the Germans were equipped with German-made Revi 12d sights and FuG 7a radios.
 
  
 
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* Militaryfactory.com website [[https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=155 Curtiss P-36 Hawk (Hawk 75 / Mohawk)]]
 
* Aviationhistory.com website [[http://www.aviation-history.com/curtiss/p36.htm The Curtiss P-36 Hawk]]
 
* Joebaugher.com website [[http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p36_1.html Curtiss P-36A]]
 
 
 
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<ref name=JoeB> Joebaugher.com website (1999) [[http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p36_1.html Curtiss P-36A]].</ref>
 
<ref name=MilFac> Militaryfactory.com website (2019) [[https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=155 Curtiss P-36 Hawk (Hawk 75 / Mohawk).]]</ref>
 
<ref name=AviHis> Aviationhistory.com website (2007) [[http://www.aviation-history.com/curtiss/p36.htm The Curtiss P-36 Hawk]].</ref>
 
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Revision as of 17:42, 20 December 2019

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
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SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
AB RB SB
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Description

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The Sistema Italiano Difesa Aerea Mobile, 25mm (Mistral) is a rank VII Italian SPAA with a battle rating of 10.0 (AB) and 9.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision".

General info

Survivability and armour

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Mobility

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Armaments

Main armament

The SIDAM 25 (Mistral) is armed with 4 x 25 mm cannons, with the main purpose of destroying aircraft. Like almost all SPAA armaments, these cannons are not designed to disable or destroy tanks. It is capable of destroying other SPAA, and some SPGs, but it is limited in its anti-tank effectiveness. It carries 660 rounds for each cannon, giving a total of 2,640 rounds.

Additional armament

The SIDAM also possesses 6 surface-to-air (SAM) Launchers, for its Mistral missiles. These can be guided by the radar system onto the target and have an approximate effective range of 4 km. However jets will most likely to evade the missiles if fired from this range, so it is suggested that you wait to fire these at a closer range than 4 km where it will be more difficult for them to react and evade. The history section (at the bottom of this page) suggests that using the cannon at short range, and missiles for longer range targets, is the best tactic.

Usage in battles

The SIDAM, with its radar guidance and a powerful arsenal of weaponry, is more than capable of taking down most aircraft within range. Helicopters, with their flare, present an issue for the missiles, but unlike the Stormer HVM, the SIDAM has guns! This allows you to dispatch a helicopter with ease, although you may choose to fire missiles to take down a particularly experienced player, as this will not only give you an opportunity to kill him, your teammates may be able to take him down. The SIDAM, like most other anti-aircraft vehicles, has virtually no useful armour and is very susceptible to incoming fire including some heavy machine gun rounds. Fortunately, it has a reasonable range, so it should be able to protect its team from a distance. As the history does point out, the crews assigned to this vehicle tended to fire missiles at long-range targets and then utilised the cannons at closer targets. Unfortunately, its missiles launchers, although a great asset, is also on the top of the turret, leaving them very exposed. Much like most anti-aircraft and missile tanks, if these missiles are hit while still in the launchers, they will most likely detonate and cause damage to the vehicle.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Possesses both cannons and missiles
  • Has a reasonable mobility
  • Possesses a radar
  • High rate of fire from cannons

Cons:

  • Has inadequate armour to withstand large calibre cannon fire
  • Can only use cannons against ground targets, missiles can only be utilised for anti-air attacks
  • Missile launchers are highly exposed on the top of the tank

History

Modernization plans for the SIDAM 25 were drawn up in late 1994, when Italian engineers proposed the up-arming of the vehicle with Mistral surface-to-air missiles in order to give it better long-range capabilities and improve its performance as a whole.

The missiles were to be distributed between two launchers, with each launcher containing three missiles. As such, the vehicle could then utilize the missiles against targets at long range, whilst preserving the cannon armament for close-range engagements.

The modernization of the SIDAM 25s with Mistral SAMs was expected to begin in the early 2000s, alongside some other potential upgrades as well.

- From Devblog

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Italy anti-aircraft vehicles
R3 Capraia  R3 T20 FA-HS
SIDAM 25  SIDAM 25 · SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
Wheeled  AS 42 · CM52
Tracked  M42 Contraereo · Leopard 40/70 · OTOMATIC
Hungary  ◔ZSU-57-2 · ◔ZSU-23-4