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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. This vehicle was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].  
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
<!--Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.-->
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''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?''
  
The Chi-ha Kai has little to no armor against its common opponents like the [[Pz.II|''Pz.II'']]. It has only 25mm of armor on the turret cheeks and the frontal plate, and 20-25mm at the hull sides. Its thin armor might only, with some luck, bounce off some auto-cannon shells while angling, or block the low penetration shells from a distance. Unfortunately, when being hit and penetrated, the Chi-ha is usually destroyed with one or two shots. However, this tank has a fairly small frontal profile, making it harder to be hit. Also, for the guns lacking post-penetration damage, the Chi-ha has an okay survivability, as it has a total of 5 crews and they are not too cramped together due to the long hull. The huge transmission system at the front of the tank can absorb a good amount of shells without hurting the crew members, at the price of making the tank immobile and vulnerable.  
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''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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In general, this tank can get to pretty much anywhere an average medium tank can get to. The engine of the Chi-ha Kai is not powerful at all with its 170 hp power output, but luckily the tank itself only weights 15 tons, therefore giving it an average power-to-weight ratio of 11.33. The 40 km/h top speed is pretty useful as it reaches this speed easily. The turning ability is not ideal, as its tracks are long, narrow and close to each other, making it slow and sluggish in a turn.
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 263|rbMinHp= 164|<!--AoAweight=(optional) -->}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|Type 1 (47 mm)}}
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{{main|Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)}}
  
The Chi-Ha Kai is armed with a [[Type 1 (47 mm)|''Type 1 (47 mm)'']] cannon with a maximum of 104 rounds. The 75 mm penetration at 100 m makes it easy to penetrate most of its opponents at its BR, and if penetrated, the damage is usually big enough to destroy a tank. The fast reload time (about 4 seconds) allows it to quickly fire the second shell if the first one missed or didn't penetrate. It has an amazing depression of 15 degrees and a vertical stabiliser that works when your tank is slower than 11 km/h, which are always the advantages. However the shells drop dramatically at long distances, making it hard to snipe the enemies far away.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="6" | [[Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25 (105 mm)|105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25]]
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
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|-
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| colspan="3" | 48 || -10°/+16° || ±18° || N/A
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|-
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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|-
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
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! style="width:4em" |Stock
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! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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| ''Arcade'' || 12.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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|-
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| ''Realistic'' || 8.3 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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| 13.0 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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|-
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|}
  
=== Machine guns ===
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===== Ammunition =====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
{{main|Type 97 (7.7 mm)}}
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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! 10m
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! 100m
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! 500m
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! 1000m
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! 1500m
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! 2000m
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| Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 90 || 88 || 80 || 71 || 63 || 56
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| Effeto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120 || 120
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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''in mm:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
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! 0%
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! 50%
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! 100%
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| Granata Perforante da 105 || APC || 500 || 16 || 0.8 || 28 || 275 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| Effeto Pronto mod.43 || HEAT || 510 || 14 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 1.8 || ° || 62° || 69° || 73°
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The Chi-Ha Kai has a [[Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)|''7.7 mm Type 97 machine gun'']] mounted on the left side of the hull. While it has enough ammunition, this MG is just simply not good enough. The rate of fire is below average, the penetration is bad, it can only fire forward, and there are only about 25 bullets in each magazine, making it impossible to provide a continuous machine-gun fire. The one thing this MG can do is to kill the fully exposed crews on some vehicles, as even a bit of armor might block out the weak bullets.
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===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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|| '''48''' || XX&nbsp;''(+XX)'' || XX&nbsp;''(+XX)'' || XX&nbsp;''(+XX)'' || style="text-align:center" | No
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
The Chi-ha Kai is best used as a front line support vehicle. Although it has its down sides, a player who knows this tank well can utilise its interesting potentials. Stay close to your teammates, and try to use its maneuverability to flank the enemies when possible, while being careful and sneaky as it can be one-shotted by a lot of tanks.
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''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 
 
For two types of terrains there are two good tactics for the Chi-ha Kai. The first is commonly known as the hull-down position, best suited for hilly terrains. It requires you to find a slope/hill to cover up your hull, only exposing a small area of the turret and use the amazing gun depression to shoot the enemies. This way it is hard for the enemies to accurately hit your small turret while you lay behind the hill and fire comfortable shots at them.  
 
 
 
The next tactic is better in the towns, involving the use of your stabiliser. Travel in the areas where the enemies are most likely to appear while looking around. If you see an enemy, move out of cover at about 10 km/h (the stabiliser will only work if the tank is slower than 11 km/h), quickly aim and shoot while keeping the tank moving.  For the enemy it is very hard to keep his guns on you if you are moving, but for you, with the gun being stabilised, it is pretty much as accurate as firing stationary, making it an easy kill. The stabiliser will also surprise you in a close-quarter encounter as you will be ready to fire first while the enemy is still waiting for his gun to stop wobbling.  
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
'''Pros:'''
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* Good top speed
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'''Pros:'''
* Impressive 15 degrees gun depression
 
* Good penetration and damage
 
* Great rate of fire
 
* Has a stabiliser
 
* Armor is slightly better than the previous Chi-ha
 
* Small profile
 
  
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* Hard-hitting 105 mm gun
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* Small profile = harder for enemies to spot
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* Has access to HEAT rounds
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* Respectable frontal armour
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* Decent mobility overall
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* Decent gun depression of -10 degrees
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Weak armor
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* As with all casemate tank destroyers, it is vulnerable to getting flanked
* Sluggish in a turn
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* No machine gun
* Shells drop a lot at long distances
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* Somewhat long reload, can be drastically increased if a crew member gets knocked out
 
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* Only 3 crew members
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* Can be vulnerable to planes strafing from above
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* No HE rounds to deal with lightly armoured vehicles
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.
'''<big>PLA's first tank</big>'''
 
  
The Chi-ha Kai was the first tank ever used by the Chinese PLA (People's Liberation Army), alongside with many other captured Japanese tanks. These Chi-ha tanks significantly assisted the PLA in attacking the KMT (Chinese nationalist party), with the most famous battle being the battle of Jinzhou involving the Gongchen tank.  
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The two competing designs primarily differed in the chassis choice. OTO picked the newer chassis of the P40 heavy tank whilst Fiat-Ansaldo chose to opt for a newer and larger version of the chassis already in production for their Semovente M42.
  
Other than the Gongchen tank, lots of other Chi-ha Kai tanks were also used extensively by the PLA and the KMT, based on the photos of the victory parade in 1949.
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This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.
  
<big>'''The Gongchen'''</big>
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Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy’s industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.
  
In September 1945, the Chinese Communist forces discovered two Chi-ha tanks abandoned by the Japanese in Shenyang. There were some captured Japanese engineers among them. While the Chinese were trying to drive these tanks back to their area, the Japanese engineers eventually rebelled and sabotaged one of the Chi-ha tanks, leaving the Chinese with only one left, designated "102", which would later become the Gongchen tank.  
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Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.
  
Soon after the tank was safe, the Northeast Special Tank Brigade was established with 30 soldiers and the "102" Chi-ha as the only tank. The soldiers called it the ''"Old man tank"'' since the model was old but still sturdy, respectable and it trained many tank drivers.  
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After the occupation of northern Italy by German forces, the Fiat-Ansaldo company restarted production of the Semovente 105/25, this time however, for the Germans. Germany only used a limited number of these vehicles under the designation Sturmgeschütz M43 mit 105/25 853(i), of which most were no longer in use by late 1944.
  
In October 1948, the battle of Jinzhou began. The Chinese had the "102" Chi-ha at the back of its line to bring up the rear. The heavy fire from the KMT blocked the Communist forces from advancing, and several of its tanks were also damaged early in the battle. The "102" Chi-ha changed its direction to avoid the KMT fire, crossed the trenches, ran over the barbed wires in front of it and led a charge with the infantries to the KMT's front line. It destroyed several of the KMT's fortresses to clear the way for more infantries. During the battle the tank did get damaged and could no longer drive. Under dangerous KMT fire, the driver Dong Laifu got out and repaired the tank in a hurry so it was again operational. Gradually the "102" Chi-ha went from staying at the back to being the leading tank, always the first to charge the KMT's positions.  
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Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.
  
After the battle, the "102" Chi-ha was renamed "Gongchen tank" (功臣號, meaning heroic tank) for its excellent performance in the battle. It also honorably led the victory parade at Tiananmen Square on 1st October 1949. Retired in 1959, the tank is now displayed in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution in Beijing.
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''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en Devblog]''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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Skin and Camouflages for the [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m43_105 105/25 M43] in Warthunder Live.
  
 
== See also ==
 
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5894-development-semovente-105-25-m43-low-profile-high-power-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente 105/25 M43: Low Profile, High Power]
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* [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_105/25|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente da 105/25]]
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This page is about the Italian tank destroyer 105/25 M43. For premium version, see 105/25 M43 "G.C.Leoncello".

Description

GarageImage 105 25 M43.jpg


The Semovente 105/25 M43 is a rank II Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). This vehicle was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat?

If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 42 4 15.7 263 353 16.75 22.48
Realistic 39 4 164 185 10.45 11.78

Armaments

Main armament

105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
48 -10°/+16° ±18° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 12.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 8.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
13.0 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Granata Perforante da 105 APC 90 88 80 71 63 56
Effeto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 120 120 120 120 120 120
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 105 APC 500 16 0.8 28 275 ° 48° 63° 71°
Effeto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 510 14 0.0 0.1 1.8 ° 62° 69° 73°
Ammo racks
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
48 XX (+XX) XX (+XX) XX (+XX) No

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Hard-hitting 105 mm gun
  • Small profile = harder for enemies to spot
  • Has access to HEAT rounds
  • Respectable frontal armour
  • Decent mobility overall
  • Decent gun depression of -10 degrees

Cons:

  • As with all casemate tank destroyers, it is vulnerable to getting flanked
  • No machine gun
  • Somewhat long reload, can be drastically increased if a crew member gets knocked out
  • Only 3 crew members
  • Can be vulnerable to planes strafing from above
  • No HE rounds to deal with lightly armoured vehicles

History

In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.

The two competing designs primarily differed in the chassis choice. OTO picked the newer chassis of the P40 heavy tank whilst Fiat-Ansaldo chose to opt for a newer and larger version of the chassis already in production for their Semovente M42.

This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.

Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy’s industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.

Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.

After the occupation of northern Italy by German forces, the Fiat-Ansaldo company restarted production of the Semovente 105/25, this time however, for the Germans. Germany only used a limited number of these vehicles under the designation Sturmgeschütz M43 mit 105/25 853(i), of which most were no longer in use by late 1944.

Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.

- From Devblog

Media

Skin and Camouflages for the 105/25 M43 in Warthunder Live.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1