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{{About
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| about = Russian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| usage = other variants
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| link = SB 2M (Family)
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' (Recon Machinegun-car AMR 35 ZT3) is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Featuring a quick firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Russian [[ASU-57]]. It is arguably the best first French tank to research.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
 
 
With only 13 mm all-around, this is not a frontline tank and it should fear artillery barrages. Bombs should be feared as well. Distance is your main defense since most rank 1 guns are inaccurate, often missing such a small target. Any penetrating shot from another tank can easily one-shot this tank.
 
 
 
This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manœuvrable but looses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.
 
 
 
The 25 mm SA 34 L/72 cannon is a breath of fresh air among its likes: it has decent penetration values and a 3.9 s reload time. Its good ballistic properties (flat trajectory) makes it easy to aim at usual combat ranges (~500 m). This gun comes with an enjoyable feature: it has a LOCK, which is a primitive form of stabilizer. It enables this tank to reliably shoot on the move in middle to far range (100 to 500 m). Or else, one can stop and shoot faster than other rank 1 tanks. The MAC 31 is a decent coaxial MG.
 
 
 
The main downside this gun platform has is its limited gun traverse, which makes close-range engagements very hard.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
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=== Flight Performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, manoeuvrability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
  
''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''-->
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
'''Armour type:'''
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|-
* Rolled homogeneous armour
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
* Cast homogeneous armour (Cupola)
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|-
{| class="wikitable"
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
|-
 
|-
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
 
|-
 
|-
| Hull || 5-6 mm (75°), 13 mm (18°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 13 mm (37°) ''Lower glacis'' || 13 mm || 10 mm (24-33°) ''Top'' <br> 10 mm (32°) ''Bottom'' || 6 mm <br> 5 mm ''Engine grille''
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
| Superstructure || 13 + 20 mm ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 13 mm (17°) ''Driver’s hatch'' || 13 mm (0-30°) || 10 mm || 6 mm <br> 5 mm ''Engine grille''
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
|-
 
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
|-
 
|-
| Cupola || 13 mm || 13 mm
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ???
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
'''Notes:'''
 
* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
 
  
=== Mobility ===
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====Details====
<!--''Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and maneuverability as well as the maximum speed forward and backward.''-->
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Weight (tons)
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! Combat flap
!colspan="1" | Add-on Armour<br>weight (tons)
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! Take-off flap
!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
 
|-
 
|-
|rowspan="2" | 6.5 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 65 (AB)
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| || || || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
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|60 (RB/SB)
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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! colspan="5" | Limits
 
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|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
!Stock
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
!Upgraded
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
|-
|''Arcade''
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! +
|116
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! -
|___
 
 
|-
 
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} || ??? || ~?? || ~?
|73
 
|82
 
 
|-
 
|-
!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
!colspan="1" | Mode
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
!Stock
 
!Upgraded
 
 
|-
 
|-
|''Arcade''
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
|17.85
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
|__.__
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
|-
 
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
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| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
|11.23
 
|12.61
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
<!--''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibilty of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.''-->
 
{{main|SA34 L/72 (25 mm)}}
 
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="6" | [[SA34 L/72 (25 mm)|25 mm SA34 L/72]]
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
 
|-
 
|-
| colspan="3" | 78 || -10°/+13° || ±5° || Vertical
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
 
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|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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| ?,??? m || ??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
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|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 11.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
 
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|-
| ''Realistic'' || 11.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! Optimal altitude
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! 100% Engine power
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! WEP Engine power
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| 3.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
 
 
|-
 
|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
 
|}
 
|}
  
===== Ammunition =====
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=== Survivability and armour ===
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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<!--Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.-->
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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* Single 6mm steel plate behind the pilot
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* No armour glazing
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* Fuel tanks located in wings
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* Self Sealing fuel tanks
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== Armaments ==
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=== Suspended armament ===
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<!--Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.-->
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{{main|FAB-100 (100 kg)|FAB-250M43 (250 kg)|FAB-500 (500 kg)}}
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The '''''SB 2M-103''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* 6 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (600 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs + 6 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (1100 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs (500 kg total)
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* 4 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs (1000 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (1500 kg total)
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* 1 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (500 kg total)
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* 3 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (1500 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs + 1 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (1000 kg total)
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=== Defensive armament ===
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<!--Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.-->
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{{main|ShKAS (7.62 mm)}}
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*2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, nose turret (950 rpg = 1,900 total)
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*1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)
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*1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)
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== Usage in battles ==
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'''Arcade Battles:'''
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This bomber is quite fast for its BR so you should use this as an advantage. For example, you should climb directly at the beginning of the match to 5,000 m and destroy the enemy bases with setup 5 (2 x 250 kg + 2 x 500 kg) which is the heaviest payload you'll have with this plane.
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'''Realistic Battles:'''
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In Realistic battles you should use the same tactics as in Arcade battles. Note that 2 x 500 kg FAB 500 bombs are enough to destroy a base.
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'''Simulator Battles:'''
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In Sim, the overall tactic remains the same as other bombers: base/airfield bombing. However, there are several notes for this particular SB 2M bomber.
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Maybe it's because of the design of short fuselage and huge wings, or it's caused by something else, the SB 2M is super hard to control in the pitch. If you leave the stick at the deadzone, the aircraft will automatically climb or dive which will lead to a crash if unnoticed. Trimming doesn't help. For the gunner view, even though you might have the "autopilot when in gunner view" enabled, it won't help either, as it will still continuously pitch up and down like a boat. Also note that when switching to gunner view, it will sometimes uncontrollably roll to one side which will make it enter a spin quickly. Therefore this bomber is extremely frustrating to fly in Sim.
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Note: the setup with the most explosive mass is the 2x 250 kg + 2x 500 kg, but this way the two 500 kg bombs are carried under the wing roots and the two 250 kg inside the bomb bay. So if you use the default keybind (space) to open bomb bay ''and'' drop bombs, the timing will get messed up when bombing a base, since the two wing-mounted bombs will go first, ''then'' the bomb bay opens, dropping the two inside. The time between the two drops are long enough for one drop to completely miss the target. To avoid this, set up a keybind for open / close bomb bay, and drop bomb series (all bombs go at once). When approaching a base, open the bomb base first, then drop all the bombs, they will now all hit the target.
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When bombing airfields, make sure to fly above 2,000 m to avoid the AAA, as this plane is unprotected and its coolers will often get damaged, leading to the engines overheating. You should familiarise each module of the airfield to maximise the damage. The airstrip is the most visible and the easiest one to hit, however bombing it seems to halve your reward. So it is recommended to bomb everything else: hangar, fuel area, living quarters, etc. The plane hangars are probably easy, since they aren't too small.
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'''Against the SB 2M (all modes but mostly in sim):'''
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You should be very careful against bombers since with the Sim control (whether it be mouse joystick or a real stick) the plane will manoeuvre much more gently, making yourself a great target for the bomber's gunners. DO NOT follow behind the SB 2M's six unless you are sure that its tail gunners are unconscious. Chasing behind the SB 2M makes yourself pretty much stationary for the tail gunners, and you will be showered with 7.62 mm bullets.
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If your plane is an early biplane armed with weak MG (2-4 x 7.7 mm or below), you should use deflection shots. That is, imagine yourself as an anti-air missile, predict where you two will meet and fly towards that point. This way it gives the gunners little window to open fire at you. When firing, try to aim for the cockpit for a possible pilot-snipe, as the pilot is very unprotected. Or aim at its engines to damage it or the cooler. Without an engine the SB 2M won't fly far.
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If you are flying an interceptor/heavy fighter that is heavily armed and armoured, you can just sit behind the SB 2M and confidently take out its crew/modules one by one, as its 7.62 mm MG has rather weak penetration and damage. This is the most precise way of damaging an aircraft, however the safest tactic is still, and will always be deflection shooting. One accurate burst will critically damage the weak airframe of the SB 2M, or snap off its wing straight away.
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
|-
 
|-
! 10m
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
! 2000m
 
 
|-
 
|-
| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 50 || 47 || 40 || 30 || 20 || 14
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| Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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=== Modules ===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Tier
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! colspan="2" | Flight performance
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! Survivability
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! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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| I
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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| Fuselage repair
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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| Radiator
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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| Turret 7 mm
''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
''in mm:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
 
|-
 
|-
! 0%
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| II
! 50%
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! 100%
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| Compressor
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|
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|
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| DER-33
 
|-
 
|-
| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 950 || 0.31 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| III
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| Wings repair
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| Engine
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| Airframe
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| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
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| Der-19
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|-
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| IV
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|
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|
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| Cover
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|
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|
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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=== Pros and cons ===
[[File:Ammoracks {{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
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<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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'''Pros:'''
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty
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* Adequate speed for a bomber, allowing it to get to targets quickly
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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* Great turn rate allows it to change direction quickly, or to even dodge attacks
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
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* Nice payload allows it to finish off a base in one go, or destroy tanks / pillboxes easily
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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* Great defensive firepower at the tail (2 x 7.62 mm MGs) with fast firerate, good trajectory and plenty of ammo allows it to deal with enemies on its six effectively
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|| '''78''' || 55&nbsp;''(+23)'' || 31&nbsp;''(+47)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+77)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
 
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=== Machine guns ===
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'''Cons:'''
<!--''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft, but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''-->
 
{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}
 
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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* Defensive guns don't cover the belly and the sides well, and are quite light against fighters such as [[Bf 109 E-1]] or [[Ki-61 (Family)|Ki-61]]
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* Crew and important parts (eg. fuel tank, engines, coolers) lack protection, increasing the chance of being pilot-sniped or critically damaged. Combined with its weak airframe, it is vulnerable to heavy fighters like [[Ju 88 (Family)|Ju 88]].
! colspan="7" | [[MAC 31 (7.5 mm)|7.5 mm MAC 31]]
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* In Simulator, it is extremely hard to control. No matter how precisely you trim, it will always automatically pitch up and down. Also when switching to gunner view, it will roll, causing a death spin.
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! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
 
|-
 
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
|-
 
| colspan="4" | 3,200 (150) || 1,350 || N/A || N/A
 
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|}
 
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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== History ==
<!--''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''-->
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''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.''
This is a good introduction to a typical tank destroyer's gameplay: a good gun on a fragile chassis and even more. With its low silhouette, the AMR can completely hide itself behind a wide variety of terrain features: wrecked tanks hulls, shallow hills, rocks, brick walls... Staying away from the fight and sniping for unsuspecting enemies. When spotted, choosing to reverse back into cover is a good decision.
 
  
'''Classical TD:'''
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=== In-game description ===
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In 1937, designers under the direction of A. A. Arkhangelski began working to improve the SB even more. The aircraft received a 960 hp Klimov M-103 twelve-cylinder, V-shaped, liquid-cooled engine. The M-103 engine, created in 1936-37, was based on the M-100.
  
Hiding behind terrain and obstacles, using its good gun depression while staying at some distance from the target is the best way to use this TD in most situations. Applies well on any non-urban terrain.
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After testing was performed, the SB 2M-103 bomber was launched into full-scale production in 1938 under the designation of ""96th series"".
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SB 2M-103 planes of the 96th series had external DER-19 bomb racks under the centre wing section that were designed to carry aerial bombs weighing up to 500 kg. The aircraft's maximum bomb capacity was increased up to 1,500 kg. DER-19 racks could house external teardrop-shaped fuel tanks with a capacity of 370 litres each.
  
'''Ninja:'''
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To improve reliability, a mechanical bomb release system was introduced and also duplicated in the pilot's cockpit. The aircraft was equipped with an AFA-13 photo camera. An electrohydraulic landing gear retraction system was used, and the pilot's chair received an armored backrest. Due to these many changes, the aircraft's flight weight increased significantly, and the airframe's structure was strengthened.
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From this point on, all production SB 2M-103s began to be produced with a shielded MV-3 gun turret and an LU hatch mount with an optical sight. An inert gas filling system was introduced for the fuel tanks.
  
This is a ''very situational'' way to play the AMR, mostly efficient in RB and SB games but still applicable to AB matches. This tactics relies on this tank's low silhouette: it can easily hide behind almost anything. Use this tactic to sneak onto an enemy's back or to lure the enemy team into a trap (needs a complying ally). Being a ''ninja AMR'' applies well to urban combat.
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Planes of later production series had modified M-103U and M-103A engines. These engines were equipped with ducted coolant radiators located over the engine. The power unit cowling was completely changed. For this, the engine oil coolers were moved to the leading edge of the outer wing.
  
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Decent -10° of gun depression.
 
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* MAC 31 coaxial MG
 
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* Two crew means that '''any''' hit to the crew compartment could send you back to the hangar.
 
* Gun traverse is fairly limited, even by casemate TD standards.
 
* Anything bigger than MG fire will shred this TD
 
* Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
 
* Big cupola makes a good target
 
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* Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour
 
  
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From December 1939 on, all SB bombers were equipped with VISh-22 three-bladed, controllable-pitch propellers.
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SB 2M-103
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This page is about the Russian bomber SB 2M-103. For other variants, see SB 2M (Family).

Description

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The SB 2M-103 is a rank I Russian bomber with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB/RB/SB). This aircraft has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, manoeuvrability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 9560  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ???
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,000 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 9560  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ???

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
0 350  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m  ??? hp  ?,??? hp

Survivability and armour

  • Single 6mm steel plate behind the pilot
  • No armour glazing
  • Fuel tanks located in wings
  • Self Sealing fuel tanks

Armaments

Suspended armament

The SB 2M-103 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 6 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (600 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs + 6 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (1100 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 4 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs (1000 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs + 2 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (1500 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (500 kg total)
  • 3 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (1500 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs + 1 x 500 kg FAB-500 bomb (1000 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main article: ShKAS (7.62 mm)
  • 2 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, nose turret (950 rpg = 1,900 total)
  • 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, dorsal turret (1,000 rpg)
  • 1 x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg)

Usage in battles

Arcade Battles:

This bomber is quite fast for its BR so you should use this as an advantage. For example, you should climb directly at the beginning of the match to 5,000 m and destroy the enemy bases with setup 5 (2 x 250 kg + 2 x 500 kg) which is the heaviest payload you'll have with this plane.

Realistic Battles:

In Realistic battles you should use the same tactics as in Arcade battles. Note that 2 x 500 kg FAB 500 bombs are enough to destroy a base.

Simulator Battles:

In Sim, the overall tactic remains the same as other bombers: base/airfield bombing. However, there are several notes for this particular SB 2M bomber.

Maybe it's because of the design of short fuselage and huge wings, or it's caused by something else, the SB 2M is super hard to control in the pitch. If you leave the stick at the deadzone, the aircraft will automatically climb or dive which will lead to a crash if unnoticed. Trimming doesn't help. For the gunner view, even though you might have the "autopilot when in gunner view" enabled, it won't help either, as it will still continuously pitch up and down like a boat. Also note that when switching to gunner view, it will sometimes uncontrollably roll to one side which will make it enter a spin quickly. Therefore this bomber is extremely frustrating to fly in Sim.

Note: the setup with the most explosive mass is the 2x 250 kg + 2x 500 kg, but this way the two 500 kg bombs are carried under the wing roots and the two 250 kg inside the bomb bay. So if you use the default keybind (space) to open bomb bay and drop bombs, the timing will get messed up when bombing a base, since the two wing-mounted bombs will go first, then the bomb bay opens, dropping the two inside. The time between the two drops are long enough for one drop to completely miss the target. To avoid this, set up a keybind for open / close bomb bay, and drop bomb series (all bombs go at once). When approaching a base, open the bomb base first, then drop all the bombs, they will now all hit the target.

When bombing airfields, make sure to fly above 2,000 m to avoid the AAA, as this plane is unprotected and its coolers will often get damaged, leading to the engines overheating. You should familiarise each module of the airfield to maximise the damage. The airstrip is the most visible and the easiest one to hit, however bombing it seems to halve your reward. So it is recommended to bomb everything else: hangar, fuel area, living quarters, etc. The plane hangars are probably easy, since they aren't too small.

Against the SB 2M (all modes but mostly in sim):

You should be very careful against bombers since with the Sim control (whether it be mouse joystick or a real stick) the plane will manoeuvre much more gently, making yourself a great target for the bomber's gunners. DO NOT follow behind the SB 2M's six unless you are sure that its tail gunners are unconscious. Chasing behind the SB 2M makes yourself pretty much stationary for the tail gunners, and you will be showered with 7.62 mm bullets.

If your plane is an early biplane armed with weak MG (2-4 x 7.7 mm or below), you should use deflection shots. That is, imagine yourself as an anti-air missile, predict where you two will meet and fly towards that point. This way it gives the gunners little window to open fire at you. When firing, try to aim for the cockpit for a possible pilot-snipe, as the pilot is very unprotected. Or aim at its engines to damage it or the cooler. Without an engine the SB 2M won't fly far.

If you are flying an interceptor/heavy fighter that is heavily armed and armoured, you can just sit behind the SB 2M and confidently take out its crew/modules one by one, as its 7.62 mm MG has rather weak penetration and damage. This is the most precise way of damaging an aircraft, however the safest tactic is still, and will always be deflection shooting. One accurate burst will critically damage the weak airframe of the SB 2M, or snap off its wing straight away.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Combined Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Turret 7 mm
II Compressor DER-33
III Wings repair Engine Airframe New 7 mm MGs (turret) Der-19
IV Cover

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Adequate speed for a bomber, allowing it to get to targets quickly
  • Great turn rate allows it to change direction quickly, or to even dodge attacks
  • Nice payload allows it to finish off a base in one go, or destroy tanks / pillboxes easily
  • Great defensive firepower at the tail (2 x 7.62 mm MGs) with fast firerate, good trajectory and plenty of ammo allows it to deal with enemies on its six effectively

Cons:

  • Defensive guns don't cover the belly and the sides well, and are quite light against fighters such as Bf 109 E-1 or Ki-61
  • Crew and important parts (eg. fuel tank, engines, coolers) lack protection, increasing the chance of being pilot-sniped or critically damaged. Combined with its weak airframe, it is vulnerable to heavy fighters like Ju 88.
  • In Simulator, it is extremely hard to control. No matter how precisely you trim, it will always automatically pitch up and down. Also when switching to gunner view, it will roll, causing a death spin.

History

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In-game description

In 1937, designers under the direction of A. A. Arkhangelski began working to improve the SB even more. The aircraft received a 960 hp Klimov M-103 twelve-cylinder, V-shaped, liquid-cooled engine. The M-103 engine, created in 1936-37, was based on the M-100.

After testing was performed, the SB 2M-103 bomber was launched into full-scale production in 1938 under the designation of ""96th series"". SB 2M-103 planes of the 96th series had external DER-19 bomb racks under the centre wing section that were designed to carry aerial bombs weighing up to 500 kg. The aircraft's maximum bomb capacity was increased up to 1,500 kg. DER-19 racks could house external teardrop-shaped fuel tanks with a capacity of 370 litres each.

To improve reliability, a mechanical bomb release system was introduced and also duplicated in the pilot's cockpit. The aircraft was equipped with an AFA-13 photo camera. An electrohydraulic landing gear retraction system was used, and the pilot's chair received an armored backrest. Due to these many changes, the aircraft's flight weight increased significantly, and the airframe's structure was strengthened. From this point on, all production SB 2M-103s began to be produced with a shielded MV-3 gun turret and an LU hatch mount with an optical sight. An inert gas filling system was introduced for the fuel tanks.

Planes of later production series had modified M-103U and M-103A engines. These engines were equipped with ducted coolant radiators located over the engine. The power unit cowling was completely changed. For this, the engine oil coolers were moved to the leading edge of the outer wing.

This SB 2M-103 with ducted radiators became the most high-speed model among production SB bombers, reaching a speed of 450 km/h at a height of 4,100 m. These bombers were produced full-scale from 1939-40, being nicknamed ""Shchuka"" (""Pike"", as a fish) among the troops, due to the distinctive form of their engine cowls.

From December 1939 on, all SB bombers were equipped with VISh-22 three-bladed, controllable-pitch propellers.

Media

See also

Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

Sources

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Tupolev Design Bureau (Ту́полев Опытное конструкторское бюро)
Bombers  TB-3M-17-32 · SB 2M-100 · SB 2M-103 MV-3 · SB 2M-103 · SB 2M-103U · SB 2M-103U MV-3 · SB 2M-105
  Tu-2 · Tu-2S · Tu-2S-44 · Tu-2S-59 · Tu-4
Arkhangelsky Bomber  Ar-2*
Strike Aircraft  Tu-1
Jet Bomber  Tu-14T
Export  ␗SB 2M-103U · ␗Tu-2S-44 · ␗Tu-4
  ◔Tu-2S-59
  * While Andrei Tupolev was imprisoned, Alexander Arkhangelsky, second in command at Tupolev OKB was able to append his name to the final production series of the SB bomber.

USSR bombers
SB and Ar  SB 2M-100 · SB 2M-103 · SB 2M-103 MV-3 · SB 2M-103U · SB 2M-103U MV-3 · SB 2M-105 · Ar-2
Yer-2 (petrol)  Yer-2 (M-105) · Yer-2 (M-105) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) TAT · Yer-2 (M-105R) LU
Yer-2 (diesel)  Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (e) · Yer-2 (ACh-30B) (l)
Tu  Tu-2 · Tu-2S · Tu-2S-44 · Tu-2S-59 · Tu-4
Pe  Pe-2-1 · Pe-2-31 · Pe-2-83 · Pe-2-110 · Pe-2-205 · Pe-2-359 · Pe-8
IL  DB-3B · IL-4
  Po-2 · Po-2M · MBR-2-M-34 · TB-3M-17-32 · Yak-4 · Be-6
Lend-Lease  ▂PBY-5A Catalina · ▂Hampden TB Mk I · ▂A-20G-30 · ▂B-25J-30