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| link-1 = S.O.4050 Vautour IIA
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_S.O.4050VautourIIB.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Flight Performance ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at sea level)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 1102 || 1098 || 15,000 || 32.6 || 33.2 || 43.6 || 39.7 || 900
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at sea level)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| 1113 || 1107 || 15,000 || 31.5 || 32.0 || 68.2 || 55.0 || 900
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|-
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|}
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====Details====
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[[File:Vautour IIb fuel tanks.png|right|thumb|300px|Vautour IIb's self-sealing fuel tanks (fuel tanks are outlined in red)]]
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| ??? || ??? || ??? || ~?? || ~?
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || 3380 kgf || 3891 kgf
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|-
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
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|}
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[[File:Armor plates Vautour IIb.png|right|thumb|300px|Red = 50 mm Bulletproof glassYellow = 13.5 mm Steel plate  Yellowish green = 6 mm Steel plate  Green = 3 mm Steel plate  Turquoise = 2 mm Steel plate]]
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot.
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head.
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* 6 + 13.5 mm Steel plate in nose.
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* 3 mm Steel shell surrounding the cockpit in the fuselage.
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* 2 mm Steel plate behind the fuel cells.
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* 2 mm Steel plate in the tail.
  
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=== Mobility ===
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== Armaments ==
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=== Suspended armament ===
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== Armaments ==
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:
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=== Main armament ===
 
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=== Additional armament ===
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* 10 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (2,500 lb total)
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* 10 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (5,000 lb total)
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* 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (7,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (6,000 lb total)
  
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=== Machine guns ===
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
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There are two ways you can go about using the Vautour IIb, either dive or keep your altitude from your air spawn.
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;Diving
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One way of playing the Vautour IIb is diving a tactic also known as rushing into a base bombing point and bombing it. This comes with it's pros and cons.
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Pros of diving:
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* Guaranteed to bomb a base if it's a small enough map
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* You can return to base quicker
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* Use your insane top speed to your advantage
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Cons of diving:
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* If you are too slow, you will be easy prey
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* Depends on the map, some don't work as well for this tactic
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* Lose your altitude
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;Keeping your altitude
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The other way of using the Vautour IIb is by keeping your altitude and climbing and then using your bombsight to bomb a base.
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Pros in staying at high altitude:
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* You are safer
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* Don't lose your altitude
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* Can be used on any map
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Cons in staying at high altitude:
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* Bombing can be inaccurate at high speed and high altitude
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* Longer to reach bombing point
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* In an up-tier situation, F-100s may catch you and destroy you before reaching the bombsite
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===Manual Engine Control===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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|-
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! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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|-
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
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|-
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| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Automatic pitch || Controllable || Not controllable || Combined || Controllable || Not controllable
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|-
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|}
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Tier
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! Flight performance
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!
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! Survivability
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! Weaponry
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| I
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| Fuselage repair
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|
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|
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| SBC-17
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|-
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| II
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| New boosters
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|Compressor
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| Airframe
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| M117
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|-
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| III
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| Wings repair
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|Engine
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|
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| LBC-25
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|-
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| IV
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| G-suit
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| Cover
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|-
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|}
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Insane acceleration
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* Climbs exceptionally well without ordnance
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* Energy retention is great
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* Airbrakes, you will need them to avoid compressing in a dive
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* Bombsight
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* Guaranteed profit every game
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* Airspawn
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Lacks the rocket payload options of the Vautour IIA
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* Compresses at high speed
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* Massive penalties in-flight performance when carrying full payloads
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* Turns like a brick
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* Roll rate is also unimpressive
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* Fragile engines; a hit to an engine will make you easy prey for enemy fighters
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* Relies heavily on team support even more than the Vautour IIA does
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* Massive target
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* No offensive armament
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* 110% will easily overheat your engines after short use
  
 
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The S.O.4050 Vautour IIB was developed by Sud Aviation after World War Two to meet the demand for the French Armeè de l'Air. This was a challenging task, after the German occupation in France. Many aircraft design teams have scattered. France was also new to the new jet propulsion area. The requirements issued by the French government called for a jet-powered multi-role attack aircraft that can perform as a bomber, low-level attack aircraft, and an all-weather interceptor. SNCASO met those requirements with a modified version of the S.O 4000. The new plane was designated the S.O.4050 Vautour and was manufactured in three different variants. The plane would serve in the AdA for several decades before replaced the newer Dassault Mirage. The Vautour was also one of the stop-gap measures used by the AdA as a nuclear deterrent. The Vautour would later be exported to Israel and serve with the IAF to counter Egypt's IL-28 twin-engine bomber.
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The IIB, which differed from the previous IIA by adding a second crew member in a transparent nose, was a dedicated bomber variant. Its prototype first flew in December 1954. In total 40 of the IIB would be built. All were sold along with all of France's Vautour IIAs to Israel in 1960.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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[[File:Damage Vautour IIb.png|left|thumb|Damaged Vautour IIb]]
  
 
== Read also ==
 
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{{French fighters}}

Revision as of 14:07, 4 November 2019

Rank VI Israel | Premium | Golden Eagles
Merkava Mk.2D Pack
S.O.4050 Vautour IIB
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S.O.4050 Vautour IIB
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Battle rating:
AB RB SB
9.7 9.0 9.0
Class:
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This page is about the French jet bomber S.O.4050 Vautour IIB. For other versions, see S.O.4050 Vautour IIA and Vautour IIA IDF/AF (France).

Description

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIB in the garage


The S.O.4050 Vautour IIB is a Rank VI French jet bomber with a battle rating of 9.7 (AB) and 9.0 (RB/SB). This aircraft was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at sea level) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1102 1098 15,000 32.6 33.2 43.6 39.7 900
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at sea level) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1113 1107 15,000 31.5 32.0 68.2 55.0 900

Details

File:Vautour IIb fuel tanks.png
Vautour IIb's self-sealing fuel tanks (fuel tanks are outlined in red)
Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
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 ???  ???  ??? ~?? ~?
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
 ?,??? m 3380 kgf 3891 kgf
Red = 50 mm Bulletproof glassYellow = 13.5 mm Steel plate Yellowish green = 6 mm Steel plate Green = 3 mm Steel plate Turquoise = 2 mm Steel plate

Survivability and armour

  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot.
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head.
  • 6 + 13.5 mm Steel plate in nose.
  • 3 mm Steel shell surrounding the cockpit in the fuselage.
  • 2 mm Steel plate behind the fuel cells.
  • 2 mm Steel plate in the tail.

Armaments

Suspended armament

Main article: Suspended armaments

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIB can be outfitted with the following ordinance:

  • 10 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (2,500 lb total)
  • 10 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (5,000 lb total)
  • 10 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (7,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (6,000 lb total)


Usage in the battles

There are two ways you can go about using the Vautour IIb, either dive or keep your altitude from your air spawn.

Diving

One way of playing the Vautour IIb is diving a tactic also known as rushing into a base bombing point and bombing it. This comes with it's pros and cons.

Pros of diving:

  • Guaranteed to bomb a base if it's a small enough map
  • You can return to base quicker
  • Use your insane top speed to your advantage

Cons of diving:

  • If you are too slow, you will be easy prey
  • Depends on the map, some don't work as well for this tactic
  • Lose your altitude
Keeping your altitude

The other way of using the Vautour IIb is by keeping your altitude and climbing and then using your bombsight to bomb a base.

Pros in staying at high altitude:

  • You are safer
  • Don't lose your altitude
  • Can be used on any map

Cons in staying at high altitude:

  • Bombing can be inaccurate at high speed and high altitude
  • Longer to reach bombing point
  • In an up-tier situation, F-100s may catch you and destroy you before reaching the bombsite

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Automatic pitch 		Controllable Not controllable Combined Controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair SBC-17
II New boosters Compressor Airframe M117
III Wings repair Engine LBC-25
IV G-suit Cover

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Insane acceleration
  • Climbs exceptionally well without ordnance
  • Energy retention is great
  • Airbrakes, you will need them to avoid compressing in a dive
  • Bombsight
  • Guaranteed profit every game
  • Airspawn

Cons:

  • Lacks the rocket payload options of the Vautour IIA
  • Compresses at high speed
  • Massive penalties in-flight performance when carrying full payloads
  • Turns like a brick
  • Roll rate is also unimpressive
  • Fragile engines; a hit to an engine will make you easy prey for enemy fighters
  • Relies heavily on team support even more than the Vautour IIA does
  • Massive target
  • No offensive armament
  • 110% will easily overheat your engines after short use

History

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIB was developed by Sud Aviation after World War Two to meet the demand for the French Armeè de l'Air. This was a challenging task, after the German occupation in France. Many aircraft design teams have scattered. France was also new to the new jet propulsion area. The requirements issued by the French government called for a jet-powered multi-role attack aircraft that can perform as a bomber, low-level attack aircraft, and an all-weather interceptor. SNCASO met those requirements with a modified version of the S.O 4000. The new plane was designated the S.O.4050 Vautour and was manufactured in three different variants. The plane would serve in the AdA for several decades before replaced the newer Dassault Mirage. The Vautour was also one of the stop-gap measures used by the AdA as a nuclear deterrent. The Vautour would later be exported to Israel and serve with the IAF to counter Egypt's IL-28 twin-engine bomber.

The IIB, which differed from the previous IIA by adding a second crew member in a transparent nose, was a dedicated bomber variant. Its prototype first flew in December 1954. In total 40 of the IIB would be built. All were sold along with all of France's Vautour IIAs to Israel in 1960.

Media

Damaged Vautour IIb

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • page on aircraft encyclopedia;
  • other literature.


France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900

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