P-80A-5 Shooting Star

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General info

P-80A-5 Shooting Star in the Garage.

The P-80A-5 Shooting Star is a Rank V American jet fighter with a battle rating of 6.7 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.39.


The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

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General play style

The main purpose of the P-80 is to teach a pilot how to fly jets in general. If a pilot is doing well (read: has even or close to even k/d) in the P-80, he's ready to move to higher tiered jets. Never give up your speed: it is the plane's insurance. Only trade it for altitude in zoom climbs!

Be careful that the jet is uptiered quite a lot. When this happens, strictly adhere to the rules set forth in this article or you will be at a great disadvantage.

One thing to take note of are the M2 Brownings. Sadly, they are insufficient for high-speed combat due low rate of fire and subsequently limited damage output. This issue is later on fixed with the M3 Browning on the successor F-80C Shooting star, but the ammunition load still remains low, like on the P-51D. As for piston planes : they are capable of setting enemy piston planes on fire in a short burst. All of the guns are mounted in the nose, making them deadly accurate when performing head-ons, especially once the "new 12mm MGs" modification is installed. For ground attack there is the usual compliment of ordinance for the USAF: HVAR rockets and standard 1000lbs bombs.

Vehicle characteristics

Tactics

This plane must be flown strictly as "Boom and Zoom", or "Boom and Run". Anything else does not work due the aircraft's awful acceleration. For ground strike, the P-80 is a very good aircraft because of the M2 Brownings mounted in the nose, making it even easier to destroy AAA, light pillboxes and such.

At the beginning of the match, the P-80 needs to climb away from the potential combat zone.

An altitude of around 3500m (about 11,500 ft) is sufficient. Then it might head into the battle, after it gained its top speed of around 800TAS / 700IAS, both kph, or around 500TAS / 435IAS if you use miles.

Specific enemies worth noting

As of 1.73, the P-80 is frequently uptiered to face off against superior Axis jets in 7.7 and 8.0. Since most of these jets can outrun, outclimb and out-accelerate the P-80, the only way to succeed is to keep your altitude extremely high and to maintain energy discipline. This means no hard turns and not letting the jet slow down too much. The Axis jets can potentially outrun the P-80 even with a 2000m altitude disadvantage.

Counter-Tactics

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good energy retention compared to piston planes
  • Great zoom climb compared to piston planes
  • Faster than any piston plane
  • High dive topspeed
  • All weapons in the nose
  • Due to M2's lower RoF, pilot can spray longer and have less trigger discipline

Cons:

  • M2 Brownings are insufficient for high-speed combat due to low RoF and limited damage output
  • Bad at accelerating
  • Looses a lot of speed in turns
  • Small rate of climb
  • No WEP in RB
  • Only a 105% Increase in throttle in AB
  • Frequently uptiered to battle vastly superior Axis jets like the G.91
  • Four large fuel tanks on each wing

Specifications

Armaments

Offensive armaments

  • 6 × 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1800 total)

M2_Late

M2_Late

M2 Late Browning USA

Pros

  • Improved shells over "M2 Early"
  • Very high shell velocity
    • Accurate.
    • Easy to lead shots with.
  • More powerful than the .30cals.
  • High rate of fire, though lower than the .30cals.

Cons

  • Weaker than cannons
  • Like the .30cals, default belts usually contain ball ammunition.


Payloads

  • 8 × 127 mm HVAR rockets
  • 2 × 1000 lb (454 kg) AN-M65A1 bombs

Engine & Mobility

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Engine

Name: Allison J33-A-17 jet
  • Takeoff thrust: 1638.6 kgf (Stock), ____ kgf (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 570 kg
Name: Allison J33-A-17 jet
  • Takeoff thrust: 1622.5 kgf (Stock), ____ kgf (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 570 kg
Name: Allison J33-A-17 jet
  • Takeoff thrust: 1622.5 kgf (Stock), ____ kgf (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 570 kg

Stats

Stock
  • Max speed: 854 km/h
    • at height: at sea level
  • Max altitude: 12,500 m
  • Turn Time: 24.3 s
  • Rate of Climb: 19.1 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 950 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: ___ km/h
    • at height: at sea level
  • Max altitude: 12,500 m
  • Turn Time: __._ s
  • Rate of Climb: _._ m/s
  • Takeoff run: 950 m
Stock
  • Max speed: 829 km/h
    • at height: at sea level
  • Max altitude: 12,500 m
  • Turn Time: 24.8 s
  • Rate of Climb: 18.0 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 950 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: ___ km/h
    • at height: at sea level
  • Max altitude: 12,500 m
  • Turn Time: __._ s
  • Rate of Climb: _._ m/s
  • Takeoff run: 950 m
Stock
  • Max speed: 829 km/h
    • at height: at sea level
  • Max altitude: 12,500 m
  • Turn Time: 24.8 s
  • Rate of Climb: 18.0 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 950 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: ___ km/h
    • at height: at sea level
  • Max altitude: 12,500 m
  • Turn Time: __._ s
  • Rate of Climb: _._ m/s
  • Takeoff run: 950 m

Performance

Horsepower graph

Warning this is still in the test phase and can be incorrect. Take information with a grain of salt (data from 1.55)




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Altitude in 1000m

Supercharger Stage #1: 100%

Supercharger Stage #1: WEP

Supercharger Stage #2: 100%

Supercharger Stage #2: WEP



Thrust graph
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Altitude in 1000km


Modules and improvements

As with most M2 armed aircraft, the default belts are subpar, so Offensive 12 mm should be focused on first. Due to early jet's bad acceleration, unlocking Compressor and Engine afterwards is crucial. To help P-80's not the best maneuverability, New boosters and then Wings repair are recommended to fix this problem. Afterwards the G-Suit upgrade will come in handy. Fuselage repair and Cover are not really useful and can be ignored until the very end.

History of creation and combat usage

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the P-80A from live.warthunder.com, as F-80C and P-80A share the same geometry, camouflages of the F-80 Shooting star can be used too.

Additional information (links)

References


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P-80A-5
Nation USA
Type Jet Fighter
Fighting style Ground Attack
Boom & Zoom

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Empty Weight ~3980 kg
Empty Weight + fuel ~5255 kg
Takeoff Weight ~6500 kg
Wing Area ~22 m²
# Flap Positions 3
Number of Engines 1
Air Breaks yes
Arrestor Gear no
Statistics
Thrust per Engine 1720 kN
WEP Duration infinite
top speed ~882.00 kph at 0 m
Climb Rate ~23.60 m/s
Optimal climb velocity ~610.56 kph
Turn Time ~23.00 s
Wing loading (Empty) ~180.00 kg/m²
Characteristics
Empty Weight ~8774 lb
Empty Weight + fuel ~11585 lb
Takeoff Weight ~14330 lb
Wing Area ~238 ft²
# Flap Positions 3
Number of Engines 1
Air Breaks yes
Arrestor Gear no
Statistics
Thrust per Engine 1720 kN
WEP Duration infinite
Top speed ~548.05 mph at 0 m
Climb Rate 77.43 ft/s
Optimal climb velocity ~379.38 mph
Turn Time 23.00 s
Wing loading (Empty) ~36.87 lb/ft²
Main Weapons
6 x M2/late Browning 300 RPG
Payload Option 1
Nothing Loaded Clean Plane
Payload Option 2
8 x 🚀 173mm, 20.6kg HVAR rocket
Payload Option 3
2 x 💣 1000 lbs AN-M65A1 Bomb
Limits
Max Speed limit 990 kph
Gear lmit 380 kph
Combat Flaps 560 kph
Max static +G's ~16
Max static -G's ~8
Optimal Velocities
Ailerons <482 kph
Rudder <600 kph
Elevators <640 kph
Radiator >250 kph
Limits
Max Speed limit 615 mph
Gear lmit 236 mph
Combat Flaps 348 mph
Max static +G's ~16
Max static -G's ~8
Optimal Velocities
Ailerons <300 mph
Rudder <373 mph
Elevators <398 mph
Radiator >155 mph
Manual Control
Mixer is not controllable
Pitch is not controllable
has automatic pitch
Radiator (water) is not controllable
Radiator (oil) is not controllable
Oil and water uses combined radiator control
Supercharger is not controllable
Turbocharger is not controllable
* Warning this is still in the test phase and can be incorrect. Take information with a grain of salt (data from 1.57 initial release)