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== Writing Template ==
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== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a gift rank {{Specs|rank}} German tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]] as a reward for the Operation Shipyard event.
 
  
The VT1-2 was the outcome of a project envisioned to create a successor for the Leopard 1. Its main focus was on the importance of firepower and speed, hence the dual [[Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)]] cannons and non-existent armour. However the VT1-2 is still a very effective tank at its battle rating, with the left cannon possessing an auto-loader the VT1-2 can shoot 3 shells in 5 seconds. Not to mention the type of shells the VT1-2 possess, in this case the DM12 HEAT-FS which has 650 mm of penetration. The VT1-2 also has one of the fast hull traverse rates and can reach the speeds of 70 km/h in a matter of seconds.
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== General info ==
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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The VT1-2 has essentially no armour. With only 50 mm at the front, most incoming fire at its battle rating will result in the tank being potentially rendered useless or destroyed. Also the survivability of the crew is non-existent as all 3 crewmen are neatly lined up in a row, 1 nicely lined up shell would be enough to knock the crew out.
 
  
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:When another user makes changes to an article via the visual editor while your changes (via source code edit) are not approved yet, the visual editor opens the last approved version instead of the most recent version of the article. Leading to your changes being erased, happened to me several times.--[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 18:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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|80 mm ''Front glacis''
 
110 mm ''Lower glacis''
 
|50 mm ''Front''
 
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Why is the writing template no longer allowed? :thonk:
'''Note:'''
 
  
* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick and tracks are 20 mm thick.
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--[[User:U77215690|Aussie_Mantis]] ([[User talk:U77215690|talk]]) 12:41, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
* 10 mm structural steel located behind ammunition racks.
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* 10 mm structural steel located on the right side of the auto-loader rack.
 
* [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm machine guns]] can penetrate the the side armour at a specific point and possible kill the driver and gunner.
 
 
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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The VT1-2 has the ability to climb to speeds of 70 km/h in a matter of seconds, on the other hand, reversing is also very good with a top speed of 70 km/h.
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
 
|-
 
! Weight (tons)
 
! Add-on armour<br>weight (tons)
 
! Max speed (km/h)
 
|-
 
| rowspan="2" | 43.5 || rowspan="2" | N/A
 
| 76 (AB)
 
|-
 
| 70 (RB/SB)
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
 
|-
 
! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
 
|-
 
| ''Arcade'' || ??? || ???
 
|-
 
| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || ??? || 2,200
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
 
|-
 
! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
 
|-
 
| ''Arcade'' || ??.?? || ??.??
 
|-
 
| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || ??.?? || 50.57
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
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{{main|Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)}}
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="6" | Dual [[Rheinmetall L44 (120 mm)|120 mm Rheinmetall L44]]
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Capacity
 
! Vertical<br>guidance
 
! Horizontal<br>guidance
 
! Stabilizer
 
|-
 
| colspan="3" | 18 || -10°/+15° || N/A || Two-plane
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Part
 
! Stock
 
! Prior +<br>Full crew
 
! Prior +<br>Expert qualif.
 
! Prior +<br>Ace qualif.
 
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|Left barrel<br>Right barrel || 5.00<br>7.80 || 5.00<br>__.__ || 5.00<br>__.__ || 5.00<br>__.__
 
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|}
 
 
 
==== Ammunition ====
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| DM12 || HEATFS || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650 || 650
 
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| DM13 || APFSDS || 393 || 390 || 384 || 376 || 367 || 359
 
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| DM23 || APFSDS || 410 || 408 || 401 || 393 || 384 || 376
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal
 
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
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| DM12 || HEATFS || 1,140 || 13.5 || N/A || 0.1 || 1640 || +0.0° || 65° || 72° || 75°
 
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| DM13 || APFSDS || 1,650 || 4.436 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 78° || 80° || 81°
 
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| DM23 || APFSDS || 1,640 || 4.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 78° || 80° || 81°
 
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! Full<br>ammo
 
! 1st<br>rack empty
 
! 2nd<br>rack empty
 
! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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| '''30''' || 6 ''(+12)'' || 12 || 12 || No
 
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'''Note:'''
 
 
 
* The first ammo rack is for the auto-loader
 
* The first rack will replenished with the 2nd ammo rack's ammunition
 
 
 
==== [[Optics]] ====
 
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! colspan="3" | {{PAGENAME}} Optics
 
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!
 
! Default magnification
 
! Maximum magnification
 
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! Main Gun optics
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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The VT1-2 excels when it comes to acceleration, high speed and low profile. This provides the opportunity to move into sniping positions early in the game or even capture midpoints. The tank is easily destroyed and should be played as if it was a glass cannon, i.e. you stay behind cover/concealment and scan the area using binoculars and/or the third-person view and then only moving into firing position when the coast is clear.
 
 
 
'''Engaging the enemy'''
 
 
 
Since the left barrel reloads at a constant 5 second rate and the right barrel in around 7 seconds, you can fire 3 shots within 5 seconds (left, right, left again) in the first engagement which lets you easily correct any error in distance estimation and/or finish off immobilized tanks. Using a custom sight from live.warthunder.com (such as [https://live.warthunder.com/post/861278/en/ this sight] by ''shangxiang'') is recommended in order to be able to quickly fire the second barrel without having to switch between armaments.
 
 
 
'''Things to be aware of'''
 
 
 
Be aware of guided missiles from helicopters on open maps, though. If you see helicopters, you might need to change plans and hide. Furthermore, if you have sniped 2+ enemies, the revenge plane is a common sight and you are an easy target for them unless you change position and move into a forest or populated area.
 
 
 
=== Modules ===
 
'''Recommended research path:'''
 
 
 
Parts > FPE > Adjustment of Fire (absolutely necessary for sniping) > Brake System (in order to be able to react and aim) > Filters | Elevation Mechanism > DM23 | Laser rangefinder
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Tier
 
! colspan="2" |Mobility
 
! Protection
 
! colspan="3" |Firepower
 
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| I
 
| Tracks
 
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| Parts
 
| DM13
 
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| II
 
| Suspension
 
| Brake System
 
| FPE
 
| Adjustment of Fire
 
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| III
 
| Filters
 
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| Crew Replenishment
 
| Elevation Mechanism
 
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| IV
 
| Transmission
 
| Engine
 
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| DM23
 
| Laser rangefinder
 
| NVD
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
 
 
* Incredibly good mobility on and off road, courtesy of its extremely powerful engine
 
* Twin 120 mm cannons are unrivalled at its rank:
 
** HEAT-FS and APFSDS can penetrate almost any tank it encounters
 
** Able to shoot 3 times within 5 seconds
 
** One cannon is equipped with an autoloader
 
* Very quick hull traverse
 
* Due to the gun layout, the {{PAGENAME}} can position itself to fire one cannon while the other is behind cover
 
 
 
'''Cons:'''
 
 
 
* Thin, mild steel armour cannot resist anything resembling anti-tank fire
 
* 3 crew members are grouped together in the front of the tank, poor survivability
 
* Cannons cannot traverse horizontally, hull aiming mechanic must be used for precise fire
 
* Very difficult to fire on the move
 
* No machine guns for fending off aircraft, highly vulnerable to air attack
 
* No access to smoke grenades/shells/systems
 
* Due to hull aiming, the hull tends to roll back or forward depending on terrain
 
* When loading ammo on a capture point, the left ammo rack is fully loaded first, then the right ammo rack.
 
 
 
== History ==
 
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The project for an experimental turretless tank was started for development in Germany in the early 70’s as part of the replacement program for the Leopard 1. The unusual layout of the “casemate” tank type had several advantages: the possibility of installing two cannons at once, increased protection due to low silhouette and enhanced protection in the hull front profile and also increased mobility due to a reduced weight compared to traditional tanks. As part of this innovative project, two vehicles were built under the general name of Versuchsträger (German: experimental platform). The first VT1-1 prototype was placed on a shortened chassis and was equipped with two 105mm rifled cannons with manual loading.
 
 
 
On the second VT1-2, two 120 mm calibre smoothbore cannons were used - the left cannon mounted with an automatic loader mechanism. Both of these prototypes used a number of parts and assemblies from the European “long-term production” experimental [[KPz-70]]. Since both vehicles were intended exclusively for the testing and development of new battle tactics, they were made from structural non-armour steel. Tests carried out by several NATO block countries, but they all left the project one by one and in 1985, Germany itself refused further development in favour of developing the Leopard 2 which was created according to a classic tank scheme.
 
 
 
-From: [[wt:en/news/6400-operation-shipyard-vt1-2-doppelrohr-kasemattpanzer-en|Devblog - Operation "Shipyard": VT1-2 - Doppelrohr-Kasemattpanzer]]
 
 
 
== Media ==
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|o_425jH2a48|Review of the VT1-2}}
 
 
 
== See also ==
 
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
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* ''User Created Gunsight Options:'' https://live.warthunder.com/post/861278/en/
 
 
 
== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the tank;''
 
* ''other literature.''
 
 
 
{{Germany tank destroyers}}
 

Revision as of 21:16, 3 July 2020

Writing Template

Template's not working. Can someone help?

Thanks in advance,

Mantis

Fixed for you o7 - DnaGonite (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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Also, who just... erased literally every change I ever made? Much anger, many sad. --Aussie_Mantis (talk) 01:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

When another user makes changes to an article via the visual editor while your changes (via source code edit) are not approved yet, the visual editor opens the last approved version instead of the most recent version of the article. Leading to your changes being erased, happened to me several times.--Colok76286 (talk) 18:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Writing Template (again)

Why is the writing template no longer allowed? :thonk:

--Aussie_Mantis (talk) 12:41, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The wording of the template implies that other users are not allowed to make changes while the notice is present, and we cannot let users "reserve" pages given that this is a wiki and anyone should be free to make a change to a page (in most cases). Therefore, only wiki admins and moderators will be allowed use of the template, and we will be happy to help resolve any edit conflicts if and when they arise. - DnaGonite (talk) 21:12, 3 July 2020 (UTC)