M8 Scott

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General info

M8 Scott in the Garage.

The M8 "Scott" is a Rank I American tank destroyer with a battle rating of 2.0. It was introduced in Update 1.67 "Assault".

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

In General, the M8 Scott plays like a beefed-up M5A1. The massive increase in gun caliber and destructive potential means that enemies the light tank previously have difficulty killing are now potential one-hit kills. Like the M3/M5 Stuart, playing this tank aggressively will almost always guarantee a place on the leaderboard. Push for the cap and then take it without hesitation. Should an enemy get there first, enter the cap and flank the target. Get behind their turret and go for a kill shot in the turret rear. Once the capture point is held, find a good hull down position and use the 75 mm HEAT to destroy any and all oncoming tanks.

Vehicle characteristics

Tactics

As previously mentioned, aggressive pushes to the cap followed by ambushes is the best way to play the tank when uptiered. When downtiered, an aggressive approach can still be maintained through the match, as enemy armour will not be strong enough to survive the HEAT shots.

Specific enemies worth noting

Against heavier armour, the need to find a good hidden position is critical. On certain tanks the addition of track armour can give the M8 difficulty in penetrating them. Hence a good hull down position on their flank can provide a good position to hit their side armour, with almost certain kills coming from it.

Tanks like the Panzer IV F2 and it's line of tanks can be a serious headache for the vehicle to encounter. Aim for the right side of their turret and kill their gunner first, then aim for the middle of their hull (upper or lower glacis works) for a kill shot. Outside of that most of the heavy armour will be out of the M8's BR range, leaving most encountered vehicles viable to destroy.

Counter-tactics

When engaging the M8, always aim for the middle of the upper glacis. A good shot will almost certainly kill all of their crew, specifically their driver and gunner. Should an M8 get onto a flanking position, incapacitate the turret as fast as possible before he can fire. Aim for either the barrel or the right side of the turret mantlet to prevent them from shooting, then simply finish them off.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 20 degree gun depression allows for good hull down positioning.
  • 12.7 mm heavy machine gun is very good at dealing with AA vehicles and soft targets.
  • 75 mm HEAT round can handle most contemporary adversaries.
  • Fast reloads for the caliber.
  • Low muzzle velocity shell's parabolic path can allow for shooting over hills.
  • Speed and mobility akin of the Stuart light tanks.

Cons:

  • Open-top turret exposes crew to artillery and aircraft strafing fire.
  • Thin armour.
  • Shells have low muzzle velocity, not good for long-range fighting.
  • Very slow turret traverse rate.
  • Bad steering at high speeds.

Specifications

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Armaments

1 x 75 mm Howitzer M2 (46 rounds)
1 x 12.7 mm M2HB heavy machine gun (400 rounds)

Main armament

1 x 75 mm Howitzer M2
  • Ammunition Capacity: 46 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -20°
  • Gun Elevation: 40°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 3.6°/s (Stock), 4.9°/s (Upgraded), 5.99°/s (Upgraded + Full Crew), 6.63°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), 7.06°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reload Rate: 4.29s (Stock), 3.8s (Full Crew), 3.5s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), 3.3s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 75 mm Howitzer M2
  • Ammunition Capacity: 46 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -20°
  • Gun Elevation: 40°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 3.6°/s (Stock), 4.2°/s (Upgraded), 5.1°/s (Upgraded + Full Crew), 5.64°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), 6.0°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reload Rate: 4.29s (Stock), 3.8s (Full Crew), 3.5s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), 3.3s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 75 mm Howitzer M2
  • Ammunition Capacity: 46 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -20°
  • Gun Elevation: 40°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 3.6°/s (Stock), 4.2°/s (Upgraded), 5.1°/s (Upgraded + Full Crew), 5.64°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), 6.0°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reload Rate: 4.29s (Stock), 3.8s (Full Crew), 3.5s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), 3.3s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
Ammunition
Ammunition Penetration in mm @ 90° Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay in m: Fuse sensitivity in mm: Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: Ricochet:
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 0% 50% 100%
M48 shell 10 10 10 10 10 10 HE 381 6.3 0.4 0.5 666 +0° 11° 10°
M66 89 89 89 89 89 89 HEAT 304 6.0 0.0 0.1 548.13 +0° 28° 21° 17°
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Screen radius
in m
Screen time
in s
Screen hold time
in s:
Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
M64 Smoke 381 6.9 13 5 20 50
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the M8 Scott.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
46 35 (+11) 23 (+23) 12 (+34) (+45) Front & Sponson empty: 23 (+23) No

Secondary armament

1 x 12.7 mm M2HB heavy machine gun (pintle-mount)

Crew

  • Commander/Loader
  • Gunner
  • Driver
  • Assistant driver

Total: 4 crew members

Armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 28.5 mm (48-49°) Front Glacis
38.1 mm (15-30°) Lower glacis
28.5 mm Front
25.4 mm Rear
25.4 mm (1-47°) Top
25.4 mm (1-20°) Bottom
12.7 mm
Turret 38.1 mm (6-40°) Turret front
38.1 mm (1-65°) Gun mantlet
25.4 mm (18-20°) 25.4 mm (1°) N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 10 mm thick.
  • Tracks are peppered on the turret sides that give 17 mm extra where they are.
  • Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick

Engine & mobility

Weight: 15.6 ton

Max Speed: 69 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 420 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 26.92 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 26°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 518 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 33.21 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 32°
Weight: 15.6 ton

Max Speed: 64 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 262 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 16.79 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 28°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 296 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 18.97 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 32°
Weight: 15.6 ton

Max Speed: 64 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 262 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 16.79 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 28°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 296 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 18.97 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 32°

Modules and improvements

History of creation and combat usage

Development

In United State's entry into World War II, the troops in the front lines require a support vehicle similar to those in use by the German forces in the form of the StuG III. The project for such vehicle began as a design submitted in late 1941, which was a M5 Light Tank mated with a howitzer on the hull front, designated the T41. This design didn't pass as the howitzer on the hull sacrificed crew protection. The design was revised on the same M5 light tank and instead had the M5 turret removed and replaced with an open-topped turret similar to the US tank destroyers M10 and M18, which mounted a 75 mm howitzer. This change caused the hatches for the driver and assistant driver to be placed on the glacis front rather than the hull roof. This design, called the T17E1 HMC was approved and put into production under the designation 75 mm Howitzer Motor Carriage M8, or the M8 Scott. The 75 mm M2 howitzer was the initial armament of the M8 before switching to the updated 75 mm M3 howitzer later in production. The howitzer was capable of firing smoke M89 or high-explosive M48 rounds, the vehicle could hold 46 of these 75 mm rounds. The M8 does not have any machine guns on the coaxial or hull-mounted area, but a .50 cal Browning was mounted on the rear right corner of the turret for infantry defense. The vehicle was put into production in April 1942 and continued until January 1944, of which a total of 1,778 units were produced by Cadillac only.

Combat usage

These vehicles would go on to serve in the Italian Campaign, European Campaign, and in the Pacific in the hands of the US Army. The M8 saw use in American service until the M7 Priest 105 mm self-propelled gun could be fielded in large numbers, which stopped the M8 production and service in American units. After being phased out of American service, the M8 was then given to the Free French forces that use them in the Western Front of the European operations. The French continue to use them all the way to 1954 in the French-Indochina conflict in use by South-Vietnamese forces. Other users of the M8 included the Khmers national army, Laos, China, and the Philippines.

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the SM.79 series from live.warthunder.com.

Additional information (links)

References


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Icon-country-usa.png M8 Scott
Nation USA
Type Tank destroyer
Rank 1
Battle Rating
2.0
2.0
2.0

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Weight
15,600 kg
34,392 lb
Number of Crew 4
Hull armour thickness
28.5/28.5/25.4/12.7 mm
1.12/1.12/1.0/0.5 inches
Statistics
Engine power (stock)
420 hp
262 hp
262 hp
Engine power (upgraded)
518 hp
296 hp
296 hp
HP/ton ratio (stock)
26.92
27.35
16.79
17.06
16.79
17.06
HP/ton ratio (Upgraded)
33.20
33.73
18.97
19.27
18.97
19.27
Max speed
69 km/h
43 mph
64 km/h
40 mph
64 km/h
40 mph
Main Weapon
1 x 75 mm M2 Howitzer
Ammo stowage 46 rounds
Vertical guidance -20°/40°
Secondary Weapon
1 x 12.7 mm M2HB Heavy machine gun
Ammo stowage 400 rounds
Mount Pintle mount
Vertical guidance -5°/70°
Economy
Required RP 5,900 RP
Vehicle cost 6,300 SL
Crew training cost 1,800 SL
Max repair cost*
390 SL
520 SL
530 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
22m
44m
39m
Free repair time (Upgraded)
7m
14m
13m
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