Lorraine automoteur de 155mm modèle 1950

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General info

The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 in the garage.

The Lorraine automoteur de 155mm modèle 1950 is a gift Rank III French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" during the 2018 World War Two Chronicles.

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

Vehicle characteristics

Tactics

  • Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armor. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armor is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.

Specific enemies worth noting

  • Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
  • Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.

Counter-tactics

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent mobility
  • HE shell is on par with the KV-2 in explosive mass, and reloads in half the time. Making it very dangerous
  • Good shell velocity makes it easy to land hits on target, especially at long ranges
  • Is often over-penetrated due to its thin armor
  • 20mm Gun can take out AA trucks and other lightly armored vehicles
  • 20mm Gun is deadly against aircraft
  • Fear factor, nobody wants to be hit with a 155mm HE shell

Cons:

  • Horsepower is only half that of the Lorraine 40t, but is still fairly decent.
  • Mediocre gun depression of 5°
  • Large profile
  • Thin armor
  • Casemate is not enclosed, and allows even small caliber rounds from planes to be deadly.
  • 20mm Gunner is very exposed and can be easily killed by machine guns
  • 20mm Gunner is considered a machine gunner crew member meaning he will switch with any lost crew members, (Loader, Driver, Gunner) and the 20mm will become inoperable.

Specifications

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Armaments

1 x 155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer (30 rounds)
1 x 20 mm MG 151/20 autocannon (400 rounds)

Main armament

1 x 155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer
  • Ammunition Capacity: 30 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -5°
  • Gun Elevation: 67°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 3.6°/s (Stock), 4.9°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 26.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer
  • Ammunition Capacity: 30 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -5°
  • Gun Elevation: 67°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 3.6°/s (Stock), 4.2°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 26.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer
  • Ammunition Capacity: 30 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -5°
  • Gun Elevation: 67°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 3.6°/s (Stock), 4.2°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 26.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
Ammunition
Ammunition Penetration in mm @ 90° Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay in m: Fuse sensitivity in mm: Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: Ricochet:
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 0% 50% 100%
M107 53 53 53 53 53 53 HE 563 41 0.1 0.5 6,620 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Screen radius
in m
Screen time
in s
Screen hold time
in s:
Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
M110 Smoke 563 41 25 5 30 50
Ammo racks
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
30 XX (X+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+) Turret empty:  () no

Secondary armament

1 x 20 mm MG 151/20 autocannon (pintle-mount)

Crew

  • Commander
  • Gunner
  • Loader
  • Machine gunner
  • Driver

Total: 5 Crew members

Armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Structural steel
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 16 mm (70°) Front glacis
16 mm (2-73°) Transmission housing
16 mm 10 mm (0-42°) 10 mm
Superstructure 16 mm (21°) Front
10 mm Gun shield
16 mm (30°) Right side
16 mm (21-48°) Left side
10 mm 10 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 10 mm N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.

Engine & mobility

Weight: 28.0 ton

Max Speed: 59 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 639 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 22.82 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 25°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 787 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 28.11 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 32°
Weight: 28.0 ton

Max Speed: 55 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 398 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 14.21 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 27°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 450 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 16.07 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 31°
Weight: 28.0 ton

Max Speed: 55 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 398 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 14.21 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 27°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: 450 hp @ 2500 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 16.07 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 31°

Modules and improvements

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal drive, M110
II Suspension, Brake system FPE Adjustment of fire
III Filters Crew replenishment Elevation mechanism
IV Transmission, Engine

Recommendation:
As a gift vehicle, all modules come unlocked on when acquired.

History of creation and combat usage

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the _____ from live.warthunder.com.

Additional information (links)

References


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Icon-country-fra.png Lorraine 155 Mle.50
Nation France
Type Tank destroyer
Rank 3
Battle Rating
4.3
4.3
4.3

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Weight
28,000 kg
61,729 lb
Number of Crew 5
Hull armour thickness
16/16/10/10 mm
0.63/0.63/0.39/0.39 inches
Statistics
Engine power (stock)
639 hp
398 hp
398 hp
Engine power (upgraded)
787 hp
450 hp
450 hp
HP/ton ratio (stock)
22.82
23.19
14.21
14.44
14.21
14.44
HP/ton ratio (Upgraded)
28.11
22.24
16.07
16.33
16.07
16.33
Max speed
59 km/h
37 mph
55 km/h
34 mph
55 km/h
34 mph
Main Weapon
1 x 155 mm Modèle 1950 Howitzer
Ammo stowage 30 rounds
Vertical guidance -5°/67°
Horizontal guidance -20°/20°
Secondary Weapon
1 x 20 mm MG 151 Autocannon
Ammo stowage 400 rounds
Mount Pintle mount
Vertical guidance -8°/45°
Economy
Required RP N/A
Vehicle cost N/A
Crew training cost 10,000 SL
Max repair cost*
2,500 SL
3,130 SL
3,010 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
11h 48m
1d 03h
22h 50m
Free repair time (Upgraded)
3h 56m
9h 04m
7h 36m
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