F8F-1B Bearcat

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F8F-1B Bearcat in the Garage.

The Nation-fr.png F8F-1B Bearcat is a Rank IV French naval fighter with a battle rating of 6.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

Vehicle characteristics

The F8F-1B is truly a worthy aircraft to end the French fighter-bomber line with. Nimble, fast, and with great acceleration, it is sight of fear for the foe's eye! Most of its enemies will be jets and they will shiver as the Bearcat faces them with a 2km altitude and (sometimes with) speed advantage! With WEP running (War Emergency Power, includes ADI(Water-Methanol Injection) for the big and hungry 2300hp Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp) and modules maximized, the climb rate is well over 35 m/s. However, its main weakness is the Bearcat's very power source- the hot-running R-2800 Double Wasp.

Tactics

In Arcade battles the F8F-1B can perform at its prime, which is, accordingly, remarkably. Due to the lack of damage due to overheating and such, the F8F-1B can easily outstrip any piston-engined fighter in a climb once upgraded. Prior to the engine-injection upgrade, the 1B performs very well, but not as sublimely as it does with the latter modification. Thus, climbing and BnZ match perfectly with the F8F-1B in AB due to its astounding climb rate, speed, acceleration, and weaponry. Regarding weaponry, fire in very short bursts with the M3 20mm because they will jam rather quickly. The most ideal belt is Air Targets, as the belt has - together with the stealth belt, but the Air Targets belt has instead of a practice shell an API-T shell - the most HEF-I shells.
In RB, the F8F-1B is a monster. It possesses a fantastic climb rate, roll rate, high-capacity armament, and flight performance. Top speed and level speed are top notch, as is the dive-speed tolerance (~800 kph). Unfortunately, this power comes at a great price. Called the "Ovencat" by some players, the F8F-1B's engine will overheat in less than a minute while utilizing WEP. It is not recommended for any pilot to use WEP UNTIL he/she unlocks the "Radiator" modification!. Therefore, always side-climb at the beginning of a match as the 1B needs all the energy it can get, especially when facing opponents such as the FW-190 D which can out-climb a F8F-1B in continuous climb due to the lower thermal restraints of its Junkers engine.

The F8F-1B suffers at altitudes over 6500m. Below that of course utilize BnZ as your main tactic. Acceleration is magnificent as is dive speed. You will find it rather difficult to rip your wings in a dive. Careful not to push the Bearcat too far, though, as rolling maneuvers and fast-paced moves can easily rip its wings.

The M3 20mm cannons have an extremely fast fire rate and thus may drain your ammunition storage rather quickly. However, the massive 826 round storage should be plenty for quite a lot of battling in the skies!

The F8F-1B can also be used as an effective fighter-bomber. It can carry a large payload of Tiny Tims, bombs, and assorted rockets, making it an effective attacker.

Turning is not recommended in RB due to the 1B's mediocre turn rate.
In RB, the F8F-1B is a monster. It possesses a fantastic climb rate, roll rate, high-capacity armament, and flight performance. Top speed and level speed are top notch, as is the dive-speed tolerance (~800 kph). Unfortunately, this power comes at a great price. Called the "Ovencat" by some players, the F8F-1B's engine will overheat in less than a minute while utilizing WEP. It is not recommended for any pilot to use WEP UNTIL he/she unlocks the "Radiator" modification!. Therefore, always side-climb at the beginning of a match as the 1B needs all the energy it can get, especially when facing opponents such as the FW-190 D which can out-climb a F8F-1B in continuous climb due to the lower thermal restraints of its Junkers engine.

The F8F-1B suffers at altitudes over 6500m. Below that of course utilize BnZ as your main tactic. Acceleration is magnificent as is dive speed. You will find it rather difficult to rip your wings in a dive. Careful not to push the Bearcat too far, though, as rolling maneuvers and fast-paced moves can easily rip its wings.

The M3 20mm cannons have an extremely fast fire rate and thus may drain your ammunition storage rather quickly. However, the massive 826 round storage should be plenty for quite a lot of battling in the skies!

The F8F-1B can also be used as an effective fighter-bomber. It can carry a large payload of Tiny Tims, bombs, and assorted rockets, making it an effective attacker.

Turning is not recommended in RB due to the 1B's mediocre turn rate.

Specific enemies worth noting

A Bearcat dives towards a formation of Kikka fighter-bombers.

Do not expect to out-climb every fighter in War Thunder. Expect to engage Fw 190D and the similar as you climb. 109G-10, 109G-14, 109K-4, Tempest Mk.II, Spitfire Mk.XIVe, and J2M3 are able to reach the height of the 1B at the same time the 1B is able to.

You will often get matched with jets, however, and this is not a bad thing at all. Most jet pilots tend to overlook the piston-engined Bearcat and remain stuck in with your jet-powered teammates - this is your window of opportunity. Gain some altitude if you haven't and get ready to turn. Deploy flaps at will, since they don't blow off at any speed, and you can easily send a less aware enemy plummeting into the ground with your 20 mm cannons. If you have a squad-mate in a jet - preferably something like the P-80 or the F-84, as the matchmaking isn't so different - pretty amazing setups can be created, netting you good amounts of kills. One thing you'll need to worry about are Ho 229 V3, as their impressive turning capabilities may catch you off guard.

Counter-tactics

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent dive speed
  • Excellent maneuverability in moderate to high speeds
  • Fast acceleration
  • High rate of fire
  • High ammo count
  • Can support high G's in sharp turns and has a G-suit upgrade available
  • Extremely powerful burst mass and in general powerful armament
  • Great roll rate compared to planes such as the BF-109
  • Respectable climb rate up to 5 km
  • Excellent bomb capacity
  • Extremely unbelievably low repair cost compared to the ki84 ko Hayate

Cons:

  • Engine overheats quickly
  • AN/M3 cannons jam in barely three seconds unless it's modified
  • Ground loops if landing with full brakes
  • Sluggish controls at speeds less than 300 km/h
  • Dumps velocity in high-G turns

Specifications

Armaments

Offensive armaments

  • 4 x 20 mm AN/M3 cannon, wing-mounted (188 + 225 rpg each wing = 826 total)

Payloads

  • Without load
  • 2 x 297 mm Tiny Tim rockets
  • 4 x 127 mm HVAR rockets
  • 4 x 127 mm HVAR rockets + 1 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs
  • 1 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 1 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bomb
  • 3 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs

bombs

bombs

Bombs

Nation Mass (nominal) Name Caliber Drag   Damage  
  Rating  
  Radius     Pen     Damage  
  Rating  
  Radius     Pen  
Bomb properties High explosive Fragmentation
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Germany
1,000 kg SC 1000L2 450 33 360.4 30m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
250 kg SC 250Ja 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
50 kg SC 50Ja 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
500 kg SC 500K 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
10 kg SD 10C 152 0.8 0.3 5m 8mm 0 15m 5mm
10 kg SD 10a 152 0.8 0.5 5m 10mm 0 15m 5mm
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Japan
250 kg mod.25 mk 2 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
500 kg mod. 50 mk 2 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
800 kg mod. 80 mk 1 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
250 kg Type 92 mod. 25 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
500 kg Type 92 mod. 50 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
100 kg Type 94 mod. 10 267 9.3 0.9 6m 75mm 102.3 45m 12mm
50 kg Army Type 94 mod. 5 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
60 kg Type 97 mod. 6 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
250 kg Type 98 mod.25 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
800kg Type 99 mod. 25 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
800 kg Navy Type 99 No. 80 mod. 1 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
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USSR
100 kg FAB-100 267 9.3 0.9 6m 75mm 102.3 45m 12mm
1,000 kg FAB-1000 450 33 360.4 30m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
250 kg FAB-250M-43 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
50 kg FAB-50 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
500 kg FAB-500 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
1,500 kg FAB-1500M-46 450 33 2452.7 70m 450mm 94.4 150m 15mm
3,000 kg FAB-3000M-46 450 33 8493.2 100m 500mm 94.4 150m 15mm
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Britain
453 kg 1000 lb GP 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
453 kg 1000 lb GP mk 1 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
453 kg 1000 lb MC mk 1 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
113.4 kg 250 lb 267 0 5.4 13m 78mm 100.6 48m 12mm
113.4 kg 250 lb 43 267 0 5.4 13m 78mm 100.6 48m 12mm
113.4 kg 250 lb late 267 0 5.4 13m 78mm 100.6 48m 12mm
226.8 kg 500 lb 285 16.9 15.7 16m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
226.8 kg 500 lb 43 285 16.9 15.7 16m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
1,815 kg mk 2 Cookie 450 100 4955.1 80m 400mm 87.6 200m 15mm
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USA
453.6 kg 1000lb AN-M65 cone 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
453.6 kg 1000 lb AN-M65A1 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
45.4 kg 100 lb AN-M30A1 152 4.3 1 8m 50mm 51.3 40m 10mm
907.2 kg 2000 lb AN-M66A2 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
113.4 kg 250 lb AN-M57 267 9.3 4.1 12m 75mm 102.3 45m 12mm
226.8 kg 500 lb AN-M64A1 285 16.9 15.7 16m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
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France
kg 100 kg No. 1 m mm m mm
kg 200 kg No. 1 m mm m mm
kg 500 kg No. 2 m mm m mm

Rockets

Rockets

Aircraft Rockets

Nation Mass Name Velocity Caliber Drag   Damage  
  Rating  
  Radius     Pen     Damage  
  Rating  
  Radius     Pen  
Rocket properties High explosive Fragmentation
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Germany
110.9 kg BR 20 350 m/s 210 100 210.8 5 m 75 mm 100 50 m 10 mm
3.85 kg R4M Orkan 525 m/s 55 0 0.6 1 m 12 mm 5.2 25 m 8 mm
2.78 kg RZ 65 Föhn 260 m/s 73 17.5 0 0.9 m 10 mm 13.1 15 m 8 mm
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Japan
60 kg 60 kg 340 m/s 82 21.1 99.9 6 m 60 mm 0 15 m 8 mm
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USSR
41.9 kg RS-132 350 m/s 132 14 27.9 3 m 75 mm 43.3 25 m 10 mm
7.84 kg RS-82 340 m/s 82 0 0.6 1 m 23 mm 16.9 12 m 8 mm
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Britain
64 kg HVAR 420 m/s 127 14 29.3 3.5 m 75 mm 98.6 17 m 12 mm
43 kg RP-3 350 m/s 76 10.5 35.8 3.5m 75 mm 56.7 15 m 5 mm
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USA
583 kg 11.75 in Tiny Tim 300 m/s 298 17.5 1,289.2 13 m 120 mm 183.4 45 m 12 mm
64 kg 5 in HVAR 420 m/s 127 14 29.3 3.5 m 75 mm 98.6 17 m 12 mm
17 kg M8 Bazooka 250 m/s 114 3.5 6 1 m 29 mm 16.8 25 m 7 mm

Armour

  • 60 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
  • 9.5 mm Steel plates on pilot's seat.

Engine & mobility

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Engine

Name: Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W 18-cylinder radial
  • Cooling type: Air
  • Max power: 1765 hp (Stock), 2525 hp (Upgraded)
  • Takeoff power: 2435 hp (Stock), 3195 hp (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 1133 kg
Name: Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W 18-cylinder radial
  • Cooling type: Air
  • Max power: 1741 hp (Stock), 2085 hp (Upgraded)
  • Takeoff power: 2411 hp (Stock), 2755 hp (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 1133 kg
Name: Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W 18-cylinder radial
  • Cooling type: Air
  • Max power: 1741 hp (Stock), 2085 hp (Upgraded)
  • Takeoff power: 2411 hp (Stock), 2755 hp (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 1133 kg

Stats

Stock
  • Max speed: 671 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 10,900 m
  • Turn Time: 20.4 s
  • Rate of Climb: 15.4 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 220 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: 750 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 10,900 m
  • Turn Time: 18.4 s
  • Rate of Climb: 38.9 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 220 m
Stock
  • Max speed: 652 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 10,900 m
  • Turn Time: 20.9 s
  • Rate of Climb: 18.6 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 220 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: 708 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 10,900 m
  • Turn Time: 19.0 s
  • Rate of Climb: 24.8 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 220 m
Stock
  • Max speed: 652 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 10,900 m
  • Turn Time: 20.9 s
  • Rate of Climb: 18.6 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 220 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: 708 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 10,900 m
  • Turn Time: 19.0 s
  • Rate of Climb: 24.8 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 220 m

Performance

F8F-1B France/Horsepower graph

Modules and improvements

The stock ammo belt for the AN/M3 is great. So don't waste research here. Biggest problem early on is the sluggish behavior and gun jamming. The latter can be resolved with spending crew points in , which by now in Rank 4 should be already at a decent level. If you are however so trigger happy, there is bad news: New 20 mm cannons are a tier 4 upgrade. Instead focus on the engine upgrades. Especially Engine Injection gives the plane a great boost of performance and turns it into a true bear. The New 20 mm cannons turn the weapons from a shotgun-like spread to significantly more accurate grouping. It is worthwhile to skip the 20 mm belt upgrade and focus on engine improvements until you can unlock New 20 mm cannons upgrade, as the default belts are nearly as devastating as stealth ammo, but with a tracer put in.

History of creation and combat usage

The first idea for the creation of the Grumman F8F Bearcat was pitched after the Battle of Midway. Many pilots who took part in it remarked that one of the most important parts of naval air warfare was an aircraft’s rate of climb. This of course meant that an increase in power was necessary. In 1943 the design work on the new aircraft began. The outline called for a fighter-interceptor, capable of operating even from small escort carriers. While the engine – the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 radial – was the same model used on the earlier F6F Hellcat, the new fighter would be lighter which also meant an increase in speed and climb rate. The concession was limiting the range of the new aircraft. The F8F would also feature a bubble canopy for better all around visibility. The first prototype, the XF8F-1, first took to the skies on the 21st August 1944. Further tests proved the aircraft's reliability and ruggedness, and the F8F was accepted into mass production. The first serial models rolled off the assembly line in February 1945 and were delivered to VF-19 fighter squadron, which began operating flights with the Bearcats in May 1945.

The new fighter, was, however, too late for any combat in World War II. After the war the situation of this propeller aircraft got even more complicated thanks to the introduction of naval jet aircraft. Even though the F8F was one of the fastest propeller-driven aircraft of its time, it was clear that the jet age was dawning. The F8F was replaced in US Navy and USMC service by the F9F Panther and the F2H Banshee jet aircraft. Some Bearcats saw combat service with the French in French Indochina in 1951, when they were used in the CAS role against the Viet Minh troops. Thailand also received a shipment of Bearcats which were then operated by the Thai Air Force. The F8F found a new life – thanks to its speed and acceleration - it was and still is widely used as a racing aircraft. One of the most famous racing Bearcats is the Rare Bear – a specially modified F8F, which holds many propeller aircraft speed and climb records.

Screenshots and fan art

Skins

Videos

Pictures & paintings

"Hunting made two cards": F8F vs. He 162 "Never fly alone" "big brother"

Additional information (links)

Forum: "[Aircraft Profile] F8F Bearcat"

References


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Icon-country-fra.png F8F-1B Bearcat
Nation France
Manufacture Grumman
Type Naval Fighter
Rank 4
Battle Rating
6.3
6.3
6.3
Fighting style Boom & Zoom
Energy Fighting

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Offensive armament
2 x 20 mm AN/M3 Cannon
Magazine 188 rpg
Mount Outer Wing
2 x 20 mm AN/M3 Cannon
Magazine 225 rpg
Mount Inner Wing
Payload Option 1
Without load Clean Plane
Payload Option 2
2 x 298 mm Tiny Tim 🚀 Rocket
Payload Option 3
4 x 127 mm HVAR 🚀 Rocket
Payload Option 4
4 x 127 mm HVAR 🚀 Rocket
1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 💣 Bomb
Payload Option 5
1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 💣 Bomb
Payload Option 6
1 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 💣 Bomb
2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 💣 Bomb
Payload Option 7
3 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 💣 Bomb
Payload Option 8
4 x 12.7 mm M2/late Browning Machine gun
Magazine 340 rpg
Mount Wing
Engine power
Number of Engines 1
100% (Stock, Upgraded)
1,765 hp, ___ hp
1,741 hp, 2085 hp
1,741 hp, 2085 hp
WEP (Stock, Upgraded)
2,435 hp, ___ hp
2,411 hp, 2752 hp
2,411 hp, 2752 hp
WEP Duration
25.0 s
20 min
20 min
Characteristics
Empty Weight
3720 kg
8201 lb
Empty Weight + fuel
4224 kg
9312 lb
Takeoff Weight
4557 kg
10046 lb
Wing Area
24.67 m²
265.41 ft²
Wing loading (Empty)
150.79 kg/m²
30.84 lb/ft²
# Flap Positions 3
Air brakes No
Arrestor Gear Yes
Statistics
Top speed
___ kph at ___ m
___ mph at ___ ft
Top speed (WEP)
___ km/h at ____ m
___ mph at ____ ft
Climb Rate (100%)
___ m/s
___ ft/s
Climb Rate (WEP)
__.__ m/s
__.__ ft/s
Optimal climb velocity
___ kph
___ mph
Turn Time (100%) __ s
Turn Time (WEP) __ s
Limits
Max Speed limit
830 kph
515 mph
Gear limit
300 kph
186 mph
Combat Flaps
910 kph
564 mph
Max static +G's ~_ g
Max static -G's ~_ g
Optimal Velocities
Ailerons
<540 kph
<335 mph
Rudder
<540 kph
<335 mph
Elevators
<500 kph
<310 mph
Radiator
>320 kph
>198 mph
Manual Control
Mixer is not controllable
Pitch is controllable
has no automatic pitch
Radiator (water) is controllable
Radiator (oil) is not controllable
Oil and water uses combined radiator control
Supercharger is controllable
Turbocharger is not controllable
Compressor settings 1
Optimal Altitude
995 m
3264 ft
100% Engine power 2120 hp
WEP Engine power 2826 hp
Compressor settings 2
Optimal Altitude
5090 m
16695 ft
100% Engine power 1700hp
WEP Engine power 2244 hp
Economy
Required RP 90,000 RP
Vehicle cost 360,000 SL
Crew training cost 100,000 SL
Max repair cost*
4,400 SL
9,117 SL
9,856 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
3d 18h
7d
7d
Free repair time (Upgraded)
__h __m
__h __m
__h __m
* Warning this is still in the test phase and can be incorrect. Take information with a grain of salt. Last checked 1.77