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{{About
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| about = Soviet light tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| usage = the Main Battle Tank with similar designation
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| link = T-80B
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet light tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. An upgrade over the [[T-70]], the T-80 introduces better armour and an extra crew member to increase the tank's survivability in the battlefield.
  
[[File:GarageImage Stormer HVM.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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Just like the previous [[T-70]], the T-80 boasts strong frontal armour and high mobility in a compact package. However, several notable upgrades are present. These upgrades include an increased crew count, fire rate, and cannon traverse range. The only downsides are that turret armour is reduced, and a somewhat large shot trap now exists all around the turret.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} British self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]].
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
  
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
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* Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
  
This tank uses the chassis of Scorpion, which you might be familiar since [[Striker]]. As before, it can only take punishment from the front and it's best to avoid anything more serious than autocannon armed light tanks or [[KPz-70]], since most 9.0+ tanks have at least 100 mm gun along with their coaxial weapons. It is easy to "hull break" the hull by hitting it with 105 mm chemicals, artillery direct hits and 120 mm kinetic shells.
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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| Hull || 35 mm (62°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 35 mm (33-71°) ''Driver's port'' <br> 45 mm (31°) ''Lower glacis''|| 25 mm || 15 mm (70°) ''Top'' <br> 25 mm (43°) ''Bottom'' || 15 mm
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| Turret || 35 mm (4-67°) ''Turret front'' <br> 45 mm (12-59°) ''Gun mantlet''  || 35 mm (6-23°) || 35 mm (28°) || 15 mm
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'''Notes:'''
  
The launcher on the back was replaced with a turret carrying Starstreak HVM and search optics. The usually small camera next to commander cupola now has heavy optics and is much bigger as a result. The turret is much higher than the old launcher and is very hard to hide.
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* Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
 
 
The missiles do not have any protection this time around and you should avoid being bombed and shot by artillery '''at any cost'''. Even a 7.64 MG can ignite missiles on a good hit. Even close artillery or HE miss might set off Starstreaks and cause your entire rack to explode, annihilating your carrier and probably taking your allies nearby with you in process.
 
 
 
As such, you should avoid fighting anything directly, if possible. To ensure not a single aircraft knows about your presence, an IRST system is used instead of radar - not even best helicopters around can detect you. In arcade mode, they can still see the Stormer, but you can be assured that optronic system will allow you to destroy them before they have even a chance to aim at it.
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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As with [[Striker]], the tank is capable of driving both forward and backwards relatively fast even with no upgrades. The ability to drive forward and turn around at same time still relies on driver being maxed out, so your crew must be very high level.
 
 
 
The more you upgrade the chassis and engine, the more obscure position you can climb and take over in order to avoid being spotted and destroyed by other tanks.
 
  
Do not race against japanese [[Type 90]] and italian scout tank [[Centauro ROMOR]], they are much faster.
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 263|rbMinHp= 150}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|20-K (45 mm)}}The T-80 has an adequate cannon for its BR. Stock round BR-240 has a maximum penetration of 70 mm. Combined with the 29 g TNT, it is almost certain that the T-80 will one-shot most tank upon penetration. Even at more than 500 m away from the target, it still has 40-50 mm of penetration which is still enough to go through a lot of light tanks' armour. The 3.3 second reload (stock) is one of the fastest reload time for non-automatic guns, allowing the player to quickly fire more shells if the first shot didn't kill. The tank has 8 degrees of gun depression which is enough for most terrain. At 2.3 BR, facing heavily armored tanks becomes a common thing, so the player should get comfortable with using the BR-240P APCR which penetrates more but lacks damage.
  
Main article: [[Starstreak HVM]]
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="5" | [[20-K (45 mm)|45 mm 20-K]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 94 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+65° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A ||5.71||7.91||9.60||10.62||11.29|| rowspan="2" |3.25|| rowspan="2" |2.87|| rowspan="2" |2.65|| rowspan="2" |2.5
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! ''Realistic''
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|3.57||4.2||5.10||5.64||6.0
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Stormer HVM is using surface-to-air [[Starstreak HVM]] missiles and their unique properties make it hard to use them for anything else.
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==== Ammunition ====
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
There are 8 of them mounted on the turret and there are 8 more spares in the back of the tank.
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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When first launched, the carrier missile drags the actual missiles away from Stormer and unleashes them at about ~600 m range. Until that point, the missile can be used as a weak form of HE ATGM and if it hits enemy light tank or SPG weak spot or suspension wheel it can do catastrophic damage.
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
Unfortunately, most of BR 9-10 medium tanks have either ERA or NERA screens all over them and will not take any damage from single missile and firing them randomly isn't going to do anything to them. Firing multiple missiles into their weak spots might take too much time and attracts their attention, resulting in inevitable Stormer HVM destruction. For this reason, fighting medium tanks of proper BR shouldn't be your priority.
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
 
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Overall, at short ranges other SPAA, SPG and light tanks are fair game and you should try to destroy them via hull break if they try to attack Stormer HVM, as simply running away from them is rather difficult.
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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After 600 m, three missiles disassemble from carrier missile and start increasing their speed to the extreme. To not lose control over their movement due to speed, they constantly spiral. Each one of them can be approximately counted as 105 mm HE with reduced shrapnel amount. Due to their spiraling nature, aiming them at ground forces is practically pointless, unless you try to disintegrate tanks which have little to no armour, like [[Object 685]] - in the case of such tanks, if you somehow hit their weak spot, they still can hull break even from smaller missiles.
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| BR-240 || APHEBC || 70 || 68 || 59 || 50 || 42 || 35
 
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To helicopters, the missiles usually are fatal, as they are almost bound to get hit by at least one of Starstreaks, and explosion either tears off the tail or knocks out the pilot. However, even in the case of this missile, there are cases when Support helicopters somehow survived a direct hit, so you might want to launch another one if you aren't sure that they are done for.
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| BR-240P || APCR || 106 || 99 || 72 || 49 || 33 || 23
 
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To use the missiles properly, you need to lock on to an aerial target. The IRST system cannot tell you where the targets really are, just the direction they're in. Instead of wasting time while looking for them manually, simply lock onto any target on your "radar" display via hotkeys like with [[Chieftain Marksman]] and turret will near instantaneously turn towards them by itself.
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| BR-240SP || AP || 73 || 71 || 62 || 52 || 44 || 37
 
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[[File:Stormer HMV passive system lock on.jpg|none|thumb|500x400px|Make sure there aren't any trees around or the lock will become unstable.]]
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| O-243 || HE || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4
 
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As could be seen on the screenshot above, in full IRST mode sniper crosshair tries to imitate the drag of missile as it tracks the aircraft, and by keeping sniper crosshairs on plane or helicopter you can guide your missiles towards an aircraft. Keeping '''an actual missile''' on target is more important, however, as system accuracy is generally far from stellar and it shouldn't be trusted too much.
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{{Notice| "Targeting" and "leadership" on your crew should be maxed out. This SPAA cannot track targets properly without it and should not be used by a level 1 crew. You have been warned.|!}}
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! colspan="10" | Shell details
 
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Do note, that a plane approaching at a sharp angle will mess with turret automatic guidance, due to it passing by too fast.
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
[[File:Stormer HVM hit with weird lock-on data.jpg|none|thumb|500x400px]]
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
Stormer HVM has huge gaps in optics: 10-40X optics, which can be manually adjusted during AA duty, simply hitting "maximum zoom" will probably result in a miss at some angles of attack.
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
Since it is extremely inconvenient to toggle zoom level every time, one can remain in sniper seat and use radar display to lock-on to targets around. To toggle between targets on radar display use button "Select radar target to lock on" (default ALT+T) and then press "lock on" to lock onto it without looking for it manually or going out of sniper seat and messing up with your preferred zoom level. This also makes the inability to tell the range towards enemy aircraft more tolerable.
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
===Optics and night vision===
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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| BR-240 || APHEBC || 760 || 1.43 || 1.2 || 9.0 || 29.26 || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
! colspan="7" | {{PAGENAME}} [[Optics]]
 
 
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| BR-240P || APCR || 1,070 || 0.85 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 66° || 70° || 72°
! rowspan="3" |Magnification
 
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| BR-240SP || AP || 757 || 1.43 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
! rowspan="2" |{{Annotation|Thermal Imager<br>Resolution|The higher the resolution the clearer and more detailed the image is}}
 
! rowspan="2" |Notes
 
 
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! {{Annotation|Resolution|The higher the resolution the clearer and more detailed the image is}}
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| O-243 || HE || 343 || 2.15 || 0.4 || 0.3 || 118 || 79° || 80° || 81°
! {{Annotation|Light Mult|By how much the image intensifier amplifies the existing light, primarily useful for comparing image intensifiers}}
 
! {{Annotation|Noise Level|How much noise is present in the image (how grainy the image is)}}
 
 
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! Gunner's Sight
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| X10 - X40 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 500X300 || Only useable with tier 3 upgrade
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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! Commander's View
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! Full<br>ammo
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
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! 4th<br>rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
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! 7th<br>rack empty
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! 8th<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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! Driver's View
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| '''94''' || 85&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 75&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 63&nbsp;''(+31)'' || 51&nbsp;''(+43)'' || 39&nbsp;''(+55)'' || 27&nbsp;''(+67)'' || 15&nbsp;''(+79)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+93)'' || No
| X1 / 3PV || 800X600 || ? || High || Not fitted || Only useable with tier 3 upgrade
 
 
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[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]]
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Notes:
  
*Zoom specified in X-ray. Strongest optics in the game so far.
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* To go into battle with the turret empty of ammo, pack 75&nbsp;''(+19)'' shells (racks 1 and 2 emptied).
 
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* Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
Optics are pivotal for this tank's gameplay. Current zoom level affects the tracking quality of the turret. The player's role in this is to find optimal zoom levels for tracking the current target and to check if the sensor system is keeping the missile on target properly. If it does not, just correct missiles yourself.
 
 
 
In case of the enemy plane escaping your system's grasp, you still can hit the "maximum zoom" button and try to chase it with missiles manually.
 
 
 
Due to half-manual aim of the tank, unlocking Night Vision Devices is a priority - If you cannot see your target during the night, it will be '''extremely''' hard for you to compensate for system errors.
 
 
 
In case of <600 m tank duels, maximum zoom can be exploited to aim missile straight into the enemy tank weak spot. Do not shake the scope after the missile launch, or it will miss.
 
 
 
===Sensor System===
 
 
 
Stormer HMV uses special infrared search devices to detect targets. While they have a significantly shorter range than radar and cannot tell the range towards target until specifically locked onto it, they can tell which targets are friendly and do not target them, or at least specifically mark them as "friendly". They also scan Stormer HVM surroundings approximately 3 times a second even when locked on, which makes bypassing it next to impossible.
 
  
Infrared detectors are invisible to "radar detectors" and will not alert helicopters or sonic jets of your presence or lock-on. There is no benefit in powering it down as of now.
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=== Machine guns ===
 
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Trees completely block IRST system - if you cannot see your opponent yourself, neither will the system.
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{{main|DT (7.62 mm)}}
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="5" | Thales ADAD - Passive Infared Search
 
 
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! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The maximum possible range at which a target can be detected}}
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! colspan="5" | [[DT (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm DT]]
! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Detection<br/>Range|The range, below which, a target cannot be detected}}
 
! {{Annotation|Max Azimuth<br/>Scan Angle|How far to each side the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
 
! {{Annotation|Max Elevation<br/>Scan Angle|How far up and down the radar can scan (widest search mode)}}
 
! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>relative speed|The minimum speed a target must be moving, relative to the radar, in order to be detectable by the radar}}
 
 
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| ~7,000? m || any? || 360° || ??? || any?
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! Mount
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! Capacity<br>(Belt capacity)
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! Rate of fire<br>(shots/minute)
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! Vertical<br>guidance
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! Horizontal<br>guidance
 
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| Coaxial || 1,071 (63) || 600 || N/A || N/A
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! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
 
! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
 
! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking<br/>Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
 
! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking<br/>Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
 
! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>target speed|The minimum speed a target must be moving, relative to the radar, in order to be tracked by the radar}}
 
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| ~6,000? m || any? || 360° || ??? || any?
 
 
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==Usage in battles==
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== Usage in battles ==
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The T-80 is a little different from most light tanks. Like all light tanks, it has excellent speed and mobility. Unlike most light tanks it has great, sloped frontal armour and good turret armour, making it highly resistant to most tier 1 gun. Pair this with its fast firing 45mm gun and it becomes an excellent vehicle for hunting lightly armoured foes. The addition of APCR allows you to fight more heavily armoured vehicles. You may come across Matilda and Valentine tanks, which are highly resistant to the APHEBC round but can be more easily penetrated by the APCR (at the expense of less damage).
  
It is best to hide from sight of others when using this SPAA - move around battlefield and use terrain and caves as a hiding spot for yourself. Exploit mobility upgrades to stand on mountain edges, if necessary.  
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In order to take full advantage of this tank's strengths, you should aim to use one of two distinct tactical options. Option one is to operate as a frontline tank in urban combat. Your frontal armour is of great use here. However, this strategy should be avoided if you are not near or at the top of this tank's matchmaking range. The other option is to work as a flanking tank. Your gun is more than capable in this role, and unlike most flanking role tanks, the surprise isn't always necessary for survival. Thanks to your strong frontal armour, you can do well under incoming fire if your attempt at flanking is discovered, or if your opponent is determined to survive and providing stiff resistance. Few tanks offer the level of flexibility in terms of combat approach that is granted to the T-80.
  
Avoid participating in combat with medium tanks at any cost, as you definitely will not help in winning the fight and they might use the gigantic ammo rack as a way to destroy your allies. The only logical exception is if you are supporting allied ATGM tank by removing hostile tank ERA and turning their attention towards you, then immediately retreat.  
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When taking the tank into battle, a mix of APHEBC and APCR is favourable. The BR-240 AP shells against flanked opponents and structural weaknesses (e.g. [[Pz.IV E]] turret), while the BR-240P APCR role is for close range combat (<400m, due blunt nose cone) and engaging heavy armoured box tanks, especially the [[M3 Lee]], [[StuG III A|StuG]] and up-armoured [[T-28E]]. As usual, having a few rounds of pure HE is great against any [[:Category:Anti-aircraft_vehicles|SPAAG]].
  
In case if you managed to spot hostile SAM, you can try to remove them by igniting their missiles to help your team achieve air superiority, however, remember that you cannot fire on move, so if they will notice you and have actual guns, the tables will turn immediately.
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In battle, you must beware of some of the high calibre guns found at the tier. Tank destroyers such as the [[Panzerjager I|Panzerjäger I]], [[M3 GMC]] and the Japanese [[Ho-Ni III]] will all be able to take the T-80 out easily. SPGs armed with howitzer type guns like the Type 4 [[Ho-Ro]] also pose a high threat. Also, beware German vehicles armed with the long barreled 50 mm gun, like the [[Pz.III J]] and [[Sd.Kfz.234/2]] Puma. The best way to play the T-80 is to use it as a light tank. Do not be overconfident. Avoid direct combat and assume that enemy tanks will be able to penetrate you. Attacking from an advantageous position will allow your tanks great armour and gun to shine.
  
Using forests as cover is less reliable than just using terrain, as IRST will likely fail to detect your opponents through trees, unlike radar which only get its signal halved in power.
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=== Modules ===
 
 
===Modules===
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Tier
 
! Tier
! colspan="2"|Mobility
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! colspan="2" | Mobility
 
! Protection
 
! Protection
! Firepower
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! colspan="3" | Firepower
 
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| I
 
| I
| Tracks||
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| Tracks
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| Parts
 
| Parts
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| BR-240SP
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| Horizontal Drive
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| II
 
| II
| Suspension||Brake System
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| Suspension
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| Brake System
 
| FPE
 
| FPE
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| Adjustment of Fire
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| Airstrike
 
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| III
 
| III
| Filters||
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| Filters
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| Crew Replenishment
 
| Crew Replenishment
| Smoke grenade
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| BR-240P
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| Elevation Mechanism
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| IV
 
| IV
| Transmission||Engine
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| Transmission
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| Engine
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| Artillery Support
 
| Artillery Support
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| Improved optics
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===Pros and cons===
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The T-80 is damaged very easily, and as such, having the "parts" modification should be the first priority. After that, researching AP and APCR rounds is very useful, since it allows the tanker to be much more of a threat to well-armoured opponents, being much more versatile.
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Unique anti-air missiles - triple missile with one of the highest speeds in-game
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* Missile acts as a form of HE ATGM at up to about 600 m range, can be used to attack enemy light tank weak spots and chassis, or to create a huge dust cloud in RB
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* Fastest reload speed in the game for a non-automated cannon
* Good speed of chassis
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* Small target
* X10-40 optics allow it to track enemy until the very end
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* Co-axial MG suitable against unarmoured vehicles
* Invisible to anti-radar (helicopters)
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* Capability to shoot APCR rounds
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* Frontal turret and hull armour is surprisingly good, and can easily bounce shots from same Br opponents
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* First Soviet light tank to feature more than two crew, meaning you can now afford to lose a crew member
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* Awesome vertical traverse limit of 65°, allows for some anti-air potential, though it is unreliable in this role
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* Some guns will really struggle to penetrate your armour at this tier. Japanese 37/57 mm and other 45 mm guns (without APCR) pose very little threat.
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* Often underestimated. Many players will aim poorly and their shells will ricochet
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* Ability to scout in low rank
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* High profile of ammo rack, which is also a weak spot, which can be ignited even by 7.64 MG
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* On top of high profile, ammo racks visually remind players of [[ADATS]] and will likely make ground forces drop everything and immediately attack it - stealth approach is required at all times
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* Very slow traverse speed for turret (hand cranked)
* Hull defences are inadequate against tanks with weapons bigger than 20 mm autocannon, even if your ammo rack happened to be empty
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* Slow gun elevation speed
* Lock-on does not provide a 100% accurate targeting solution
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* Front shot trap, although decently protected, is a serious weak point
* Lock-on can become unstable around trees and breaks if visual contact is lost
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* Low calibre gun
* Turret and the optical system sometimes fail to track planes properly, relying on the crew and operator skills to compensate, especially noticeable when the inappropriate zoom level is used
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* Easily damaged by careless driving
* Due to a huge gap in optics zoom levels, the operator is often required to manually adjust scope, instead of just hitting "maximum zoom" button, and to lock on different planes by using radar display without leaving sniper seat to save time
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* Gun is inaccurate at long range.
* After dispersing, triple missiles constantly spiral, making precise long-range aiming at ground forces pointless, not to mention that most tanks in its natural BR range are immune to triple missile attack even from the side and they can only hull break light tanks or other SPAA when hit them in a weak spot
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* Tank wobbles when you stop, meaning you will have to wait a few seconds before you can fire accurately.
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* Easily one-shotted due to the small crew number
  
 
== History ==
 
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In the mid-1980’s it became clear that supersonic aircraft and strike helicopters proved to be dangerous against ground troops. To counter these threats back in 1986, the British Ministry of Defence began development of the “Starstreak HVM” (High-Velocity Missile) anti-aircraft missile system. The production was done by the Shorts Missile Systems company. On the 1st of September in 1997, the famous Starstreak anti-aircraft missile system had been put into service by the British Army. Initially, it was developed in 3 different variants: portable, stationary and mobile, although later they additionally developed an air version but it didn’t find a practical application.
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The '''T-80''' light tank was a redesign of the [[T-70]] light tank in an attempt to make the design relevant again.
  
The armoured personnel carrier Stormer was created by using the propulsion system, the transmission and chassis of the light scouting FV101 Scorpion tank for the mobile version of the system. In 1975 on the base of this armoured personnel carrier, the self-propelled anti-tank missile system FV102 Striker was created. Since the vehicle proved itself well, it was decided to additionally create the self-propelled anti-aircraft system Alvis Stormer HVM on its platform.
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During World War II, the concept of the light tank was deemed obsolete, they were too lightly armoured, too lightly armed, and sometimes don't go that much faster than the 1940s medium tank designs which had better armour and guns. Plus, the smaller profile of the tank meant that the crew are not necessarily given enough comfort room and the constraint would force turret design to be a one or two-man turret, restricting the commander to perform other duties as well.
  
''- From [[wt:en/news/6208-development-alvis-stormer-hvm-control-of-the-skies-en|Devblog]]''
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The T-80 tried to remedy this by giving the tank more armour and a two-man turret so the commander could coordinate more efficiently than the one-man turret on the T-70. However, the role of the light tank in the Soviet Union could be fulfilled by the incoming supplies of Lend-Lease equipment available from Britain and America in the form of [[M3 Stuart]]s and [[Valentine Mk I|Valentine]] tanks, which are better than the T-70 and T-80 designs. In October of 1943, the light tank production were all cancelled, resulting in only 120 T-80s being produced in its brief production life.
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=== In-game description ===
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This tank was created based on the T-70M, with the aim of eliminating its main flaws.
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An analysis of the use of this tank in battle showed that a tank equipped with a cannon needs more than two crew members: the tank commander had to fulfill the role of both a driver and a loader, which negatively affected the tank's manoeuvrability and firing rate in battle. In addition, the constantly developing array of anti-tank weapons meant that stronger armour was required. So in 1943, the GAZ design bureau developed the new T-80 light tank with stronger armour and a three-man crew. One of the tank's key elements was its 45 mm cannon's high angle of fire. To allow for high-angle firing, e.g. during battles in urban conditions, the tank was equipped with a K-8T collimator sight. This sight provided the ability to fire at both air and ground targets.
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By September 1943, factory No. 40 in the town of Mytishchi had produced 81 vehicles of this type in total.
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The T-80 tank had an assembly typical of Soviet-produced light tanks. The transmission compartment was located at the front, and the engine at the back. This caused increased vulnerability, since it was the front of the tank that was most often subjected to fire from the enemy. The T-80's fuel tanks were located outside of the fighting compartment in an armoured partition, which reduced the risk of a hit starting a fire. This arrangement increased the survivability of the tank's crew.
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The tank's effectivity in combat was reduced by the unreliability of its high-powered engines and its low mobility due to its increased weight.
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The new vehicles entered service in self-propelled artillery regiments as command tanks and were used until 1945.
  
 
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== See also ==
 
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* [[T-60]]
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* [[T-26 (Family)]]
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* [[T-50]] / [[T-126]]
  
 
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* ''other literature.''
* [[wt:en/news/6208-development-alvis-stormer-hvm-control-of-the-skies-en|[Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Alvis Stormer HVM: Control of the skies!]]
 
  
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T-80
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T-80
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This page is about the Soviet light tank T-80. For the Main Battle Tank with similar designation, see T-80B.

Description

GarageImage T-80.jpg


The T-80 is a rank II Soviet light tank with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB) and 2.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced during the Closed Beta Test for Ground Forces before Update 1.41. An upgrade over the T-70, the T-80 introduces better armour and an extra crew member to increase the tank's survivability in the battlefield.

Just like the previous T-70, the T-80 boasts strong frontal armour and high mobility in a compact package. However, several notable upgrades are present. These upgrades include an increased crew count, fire rate, and cannon traverse range. The only downsides are that turret armour is reduced, and a somewhat large shot trap now exists all around the turret.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 35 mm (62°) Front glacis
35 mm (33-71°) Driver's port
45 mm (31°) Lower glacis
25 mm 15 mm (70°) Top
25 mm (43°) Bottom
15 mm
Turret 35 mm (4-67°) Turret front
45 mm (12-59°) Gun mantlet
35 mm (6-23°) 35 mm (28°) 15 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 51 7 11.6 263 324 22.67 27.93
Realistic 46 6 150 170 12.93 14.66

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 20-K (45 mm)
The T-80 has an adequate cannon for its BR. Stock round BR-240 has a maximum penetration of 70 mm. Combined with the 29 g TNT, it is almost certain that the T-80 will one-shot most tank upon penetration. Even at more than 500 m away from the target, it still has 40-50 mm of penetration which is still enough to go through a lot of light tanks' armour. The 3.3 second reload (stock) is one of the fastest reload time for non-automatic guns, allowing the player to quickly fire more shells if the first shot didn't kill. The tank has 8 degrees of gun depression which is enough for most terrain. At 2.3 BR, facing heavily armored tanks becomes a common thing, so the player should get comfortable with using the BR-240P APCR which penetrates more but lacks damage.
45 mm 20-K Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 94 -8°/+65° ±180° N/A 5.71 7.91 9.60 10.62 11.29 3.25 2.87 2.65 2.5
Realistic 3.57 4.2 5.10 5.64 6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
BR-240 APHEBC 70 68 59 50 42 35
BR-240P APCR 106 99 72 49 33 23
BR-240SP AP 73 71 62 52 44 37
O-243 HE 4 4 4 4 4 4
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
BR-240 APHEBC 760 1.43 1.2 9.0 29.26 48° 63° 71°
BR-240P APCR 1,070 0.85 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
BR-240SP AP 757 1.43 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°
O-243 HE 343 2.15 0.4 0.3 118 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
94 85 (+9) 75 (+19) 63 (+31) 51 (+43) 39 (+55) 27 (+67) 15 (+79) (+93) No
Ammo racks of the T-80

Notes:

  • To go into battle with the turret empty of ammo, pack 75 (+19) shells (racks 1 and 2 emptied).
  • Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.

Machine guns

Main article: DT (7.62 mm)
7.62 mm DT
Mount Capacity
(Belt capacity)
Rate of fire
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Coaxial 1,071 (63) 600 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The T-80 is a little different from most light tanks. Like all light tanks, it has excellent speed and mobility. Unlike most light tanks it has great, sloped frontal armour and good turret armour, making it highly resistant to most tier 1 gun. Pair this with its fast firing 45mm gun and it becomes an excellent vehicle for hunting lightly armoured foes. The addition of APCR allows you to fight more heavily armoured vehicles. You may come across Matilda and Valentine tanks, which are highly resistant to the APHEBC round but can be more easily penetrated by the APCR (at the expense of less damage).

In order to take full advantage of this tank's strengths, you should aim to use one of two distinct tactical options. Option one is to operate as a frontline tank in urban combat. Your frontal armour is of great use here. However, this strategy should be avoided if you are not near or at the top of this tank's matchmaking range. The other option is to work as a flanking tank. Your gun is more than capable in this role, and unlike most flanking role tanks, the surprise isn't always necessary for survival. Thanks to your strong frontal armour, you can do well under incoming fire if your attempt at flanking is discovered, or if your opponent is determined to survive and providing stiff resistance. Few tanks offer the level of flexibility in terms of combat approach that is granted to the T-80.

When taking the tank into battle, a mix of APHEBC and APCR is favourable. The BR-240 AP shells against flanked opponents and structural weaknesses (e.g. Pz.IV E turret), while the BR-240P APCR role is for close range combat (<400m, due blunt nose cone) and engaging heavy armoured box tanks, especially the M3 Lee, StuG and up-armoured T-28E. As usual, having a few rounds of pure HE is great against any SPAAG.

In battle, you must beware of some of the high calibre guns found at the tier. Tank destroyers such as the Panzerjäger I, M3 GMC and the Japanese Ho-Ni III will all be able to take the T-80 out easily. SPGs armed with howitzer type guns like the Type 4 Ho-Ro also pose a high threat. Also, beware German vehicles armed with the long barreled 50 mm gun, like the Pz.III J and Sd.Kfz.234/2 Puma. The best way to play the T-80 is to use it as a light tank. Do not be overconfident. Avoid direct combat and assume that enemy tanks will be able to penetrate you. Attacking from an advantageous position will allow your tanks great armour and gun to shine.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts BR-240SP Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire Airstrike
III Filters Crew Replenishment BR-240P Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support Improved optics

The T-80 is damaged very easily, and as such, having the "parts" modification should be the first priority. After that, researching AP and APCR rounds is very useful, since it allows the tanker to be much more of a threat to well-armoured opponents, being much more versatile.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Fastest reload speed in the game for a non-automated cannon
  • Small target
  • Co-axial MG suitable against unarmoured vehicles
  • Capability to shoot APCR rounds
  • Frontal turret and hull armour is surprisingly good, and can easily bounce shots from same Br opponents
  • First Soviet light tank to feature more than two crew, meaning you can now afford to lose a crew member
  • Awesome vertical traverse limit of 65°, allows for some anti-air potential, though it is unreliable in this role
  • Some guns will really struggle to penetrate your armour at this tier. Japanese 37/57 mm and other 45 mm guns (without APCR) pose very little threat.
  • Often underestimated. Many players will aim poorly and their shells will ricochet
  • Ability to scout in low rank

Cons:

  • Very slow traverse speed for turret (hand cranked)
  • Slow gun elevation speed
  • Front shot trap, although decently protected, is a serious weak point
  • Low calibre gun
  • Easily damaged by careless driving
  • Gun is inaccurate at long range.
  • Tank wobbles when you stop, meaning you will have to wait a few seconds before you can fire accurately.
  • Easily one-shotted due to the small crew number

History

The T-80 light tank was a redesign of the T-70 light tank in an attempt to make the design relevant again.

During World War II, the concept of the light tank was deemed obsolete, they were too lightly armoured, too lightly armed, and sometimes don't go that much faster than the 1940s medium tank designs which had better armour and guns. Plus, the smaller profile of the tank meant that the crew are not necessarily given enough comfort room and the constraint would force turret design to be a one or two-man turret, restricting the commander to perform other duties as well.

The T-80 tried to remedy this by giving the tank more armour and a two-man turret so the commander could coordinate more efficiently than the one-man turret on the T-70. However, the role of the light tank in the Soviet Union could be fulfilled by the incoming supplies of Lend-Lease equipment available from Britain and America in the form of M3 Stuarts and Valentine tanks, which are better than the T-70 and T-80 designs. In October of 1943, the light tank production were all cancelled, resulting in only 120 T-80s being produced in its brief production life.

In-game description

This tank was created based on the T-70M, with the aim of eliminating its main flaws.

An analysis of the use of this tank in battle showed that a tank equipped with a cannon needs more than two crew members: the tank commander had to fulfill the role of both a driver and a loader, which negatively affected the tank's manoeuvrability and firing rate in battle. In addition, the constantly developing array of anti-tank weapons meant that stronger armour was required. So in 1943, the GAZ design bureau developed the new T-80 light tank with stronger armour and a three-man crew. One of the tank's key elements was its 45 mm cannon's high angle of fire. To allow for high-angle firing, e.g. during battles in urban conditions, the tank was equipped with a K-8T collimator sight. This sight provided the ability to fire at both air and ground targets.

By September 1943, factory No. 40 in the town of Mytishchi had produced 81 vehicles of this type in total.

The T-80 tank had an assembly typical of Soviet-produced light tanks. The transmission compartment was located at the front, and the engine at the back. This caused increased vulnerability, since it was the front of the tank that was most often subjected to fire from the enemy. The T-80's fuel tanks were located outside of the fighting compartment in an armoured partition, which reduced the risk of a hit starting a fire. This arrangement increased the survivability of the tank's crew.

The tank's effectivity in combat was reduced by the unreliability of its high-powered engines and its low mobility due to its increased weight.

The new vehicles entered service in self-propelled artillery regiments as command tanks and were used until 1945.

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Vehicles equipped with the same gun

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the tank;
  • other literature.


USSR light tanks
T-26  T-26 · T-26 (1st Gv.T.Br.) · T-26-4 · T-26E
BT  BT-5 · RBT-5 · BT-7 · BT-7 TD · BT-7M · BT-7A (F-32)
T-50  T-126 · T-50
T-70  T-70 · T-80
PT-76  PT-76B · PT-76-57 · Object 906
BMP  BMP-1 · BMP-2 · BMP-2M · BMP-3
BMD  BMD-4
2S25  2S25 · 2S25M
Wheeled  BA-11 · BTR-80A
Other  T-60 · Object 685 · 2S38
China  ▂Type 62