F3F-2

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General info

F3F-2 in the Garage.

The F3F-2 is a Rank I American fighter with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB) and 1.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour".

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

The F3F-2 is, as of War Thunder patch 1.69, the sole American biplane fighter outside of its premium variant. However, it is a very capable biplane fighter, and can be seen in-game as a rival to the USSR's I-153 Chaika.

As expected with most Rank I fighters, but often considered "unusual" for an American fighter, the F3F is a pure bred turn fighter. Like the Chaika mentioned above, and the polar opposite in performance of the F2A that replaced it in service, the F3F can pull turns with relative ease, and also has a very excellent roll rate in addition to that, which when abused can provide a tough challenge for most of its opposition. It easily outclasses all reserve planes except the Ki-10 in maneuverability, and is on par with the I-153 in that matter as well. However, the F3F's BR can push it into the domain of Spitfires, late-model I-16s, Ki-43s (as well its bigger brother, the Ki-44) and of course Bf 109s, all of which are capable of easily disposing of its biplane opposition. It isn't the fastest or most climbable fighter either.

Due to its lackluster armament (one M2 Browning machinegun with 200 rounds and one 7.62 mm Browning machine gun with 500 rounds), the F3F should mainly go after the fighter opposition, and not after bombers-leave that job to the P-40s. While it can carry two 100 lbs bombs, they are only effective against lightly armoured targets (armoured cars, artillery, AAA etc.), and if carried early on in the match can weigh the plane down, affecting its flight characteristics a bit as a result. Leave the bombs until either the opposition goes passive for a while or air superiority can be obtained for a period of time over an opposing field of ground targets.

The F3F only climbs considerably better than its younger stablemate, the F2A, so side climbing may become necessary on some matches.

Vehicle characteristics

Tactics

The F3F is armed with one 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, and one 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, both are located within the nose of the aircraft right above the engine. While this does mean gun convergence is not an issue, the two-gun armament can be lacking in both firepower and ammunition count; the larger M2 has only 200 rounds to play with while the smaller 7.62 has 500 rounds on hand.

Nevertheless, this armament is decent enough to take down reserve tier and lightly-armoured Rank I planes down with relative ease and, if an experienced player is behind the controls, is capable of dealing with even Tier II aircraft.

The best air-to-air belts for the 12.7 MG are either universal or stealth belts (good amount of incendiary bullets), and universal belts should be used for the 7.62 MG.

Specific enemies worth noting

Counter-tactics

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very good turn rate and roll rate.
  • Can be a deadly fighter with an experienced pilot behind the controls.
  • Capable of dealing with most reserve or Tier I aircraft.
  • Can land on carriers, which comes in handy.
  • Massive fuel load.

Cons:

  • Lackluster armament (one 12.7 mm machine gun and one 7.62 mm machine gun).
  • Not a very fast plane.
  • Doesn't have a very good climb rate.

Specifications

Armaments

Offensive armaments

  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, nose-mounted (200 rpg)
  • 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, nose-mounted (500 rpg)

Payloads

  • Without load
  • 2 x 100 lb AN-M30A1 bombs

bombs

bombs

Bombs

Nation Mass (nominal) Name Caliber Drag   Damage  
  Rating  
  Radius     Pen     Damage  
  Rating  
  Radius     Pen  
Bomb properties High explosive Fragmentation
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Germany
1,000 kg SC 1000L2 450 33 360.4 30m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
250 kg SC 250Ja 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
50 kg SC 50Ja 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
500 kg SC 500K 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
10 kg SD 10C 152 0.8 0.3 5m 8mm 0 15m 5mm
10 kg SD 10a 152 0.8 0.5 5m 10mm 0 15m 5mm
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Japan
250 kg mod.25 mk 2 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
500 kg mod. 50 mk 2 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
800 kg mod. 80 mk 1 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
250 kg Type 92 mod. 25 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
500 kg Type 92 mod. 50 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
100 kg Type 94 mod. 10 267 9.3 0.9 6m 75mm 102.3 45m 12mm
50 kg Army Type 94 mod. 5 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
60 kg Type 97 mod. 6 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
250 kg Type 98 mod.25 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
800kg Type 99 mod. 25 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
800 kg Navy Type 99 No. 80 mod. 1 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
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USSR
100 kg FAB-100 267 9.3 0.9 6m 75mm 102.3 45m 12mm
1,000 kg FAB-1000 450 33 360.4 30m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
250 kg FAB-250M-43 285 16.9 6.3 10m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
50 kg FAB-50 152 4.3 0 3m 35mm 51.3 40m 10mm
500 kg FAB-500 392 23.7 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
1,500 kg FAB-1500M-46 450 33 2452.7 70m 450mm 94.4 150m 15mm
3,000 kg FAB-3000M-46 450 33 8493.2 100m 500mm 94.4 150m 15mm
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Britain
453 kg 1000 lb GP 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
453 kg 1000 lb GP mk 1 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
453 kg 1000 lb MC mk 1 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
113.4 kg 250 lb 267 0 5.4 13m 78mm 100.6 48m 12mm
113.4 kg 250 lb 43 267 0 5.4 13m 78mm 100.6 48m 12mm
113.4 kg 250 lb late 267 0 5.4 13m 78mm 100.6 48m 12mm
226.8 kg 500 lb 285 16.9 15.7 16m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
226.8 kg 500 lb 43 285 16.9 15.7 16m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
1,815 kg mk 2 Cookie 450 100 4955.1 80m 400mm 87.6 200m 15mm
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USA
453.6 kg 1000lb AN-M65 cone 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
453.6 kg 1000 lb AN-M65A1 392 37 100 25m 160mm 100 120m 15mm
45.4 kg 100 lb AN-M30A1 152 4.3 1 8m 50mm 51.3 40m 10mm
907.2 kg 2000 lb AN-M66A2 450 49.6 640.9 40m 250mm 94.4 150m 15mm
113.4 kg 250 lb AN-M57 267 9.3 4.1 12m 75mm 102.3 45m 12mm
226.8 kg 500 lb AN-M64A1 285 16.9 15.7 16m 100mm 111 80m 12mm
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France
kg 100 kg No. 1 m mm m mm
kg 200 kg No. 1 m mm m mm
kg 500 kg No. 2 m mm m mm

Armour

  • 8.5 mm Steel boxes in the fuselage.

Engine & mobility

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Engine

Name: Wright Cyclone R-1820-22 9-cylinder radial
  • Cooling type: Air
  • Max power: 730 hp (Stock), 889 hp (Upgraded)
  • Takeoff power: 827 hp (Stock), 985 hp (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 533 kg
Name: Wright Cyclone R-1820-22 9-cylinder radial
  • Cooling type: Air
  • Max power: 722 hp (Stock), 800 hp (Upgraded)
  • Takeoff power: 819 hp (Stock), 897 hp (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 533 kg
Name: Wright Cyclone R-1820-22 9-cylinder radial
  • Cooling type: Air
  • Max power: 722 hp (Stock), 800 hp (Upgraded)
  • Takeoff power: 819 hp (Stock), 897 hp (Upgraded)
  • Mass: 533 kg

Stats

Stock
  • Max speed: 411 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 11,000 m
  • Turn Time: 15.8 s
  • Rate of Climb: 10.4 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 210 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: 461 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 11,000 m
  • Turn Time: 14.3 s
  • Rate of Climb: 24.3 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 210 m
Stock
  • Max speed: 404 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 11,000 m
  • Turn Time: 16.1 s
  • Rate of Climb: 12.5 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 210 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: 436 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 11,000 m
  • Turn Time: 15.0 s
  • Rate of Climb: 16.0 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 210 m
Stock
  • Max speed: 404 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 11,000 m
  • Turn Time: 16.1 s
  • Rate of Climb: 12.5 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 210 m

Upgraded

  • Max speed: 436 km/h
    • at height: 4,268 m
  • Max altitude: 11,000 m
  • Turn Time: 15.0 s
  • Rate of Climb: 16.0 m/s
  • Takeoff run: 210 m

Performance

Warning this is still in the test phase and is probably incorrect. Take information with a grain of salt (data taken from 1.55)




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Supercharger Stage #1: 100%

Supercharger Stage #1: WEP

Supercharger Stage #2: 100%

Supercharger Stage #2: WEP



Modules and improvements

Tier I modifications:

  • Fuselage repair: +3 SL to repair cost, +3.6 km/h to top speed
  • Radiator: +2 SL to repair cost, +5 km/h to top speed and +0.1 m/s to climb rate
  • Offensive 7 mm: Adds offensive belts for 7.62 Browning machine gun

Tier II modifications:

  • Compressor: +20 SL to repair cost, +5 km/h to top speed, +0.8 m/s to climb rate and -0.1 seconds to turn time
  • Airframe: +25 SL to repair cost, +0.3 m/s to climb rate and -0.2 seconds to turn time
  • Offensive 12 mm: Adds offensive belts for M2 Browning machine gun
  • Mk 41: Adds capability to carry two AN-M30 100 lbs bombs

Tier III modifications:

  • Engine: +28 SL to repair cost, +5.8 km/h to top speed, +1.1 m/s to climb rate and -0.2 seconds to turn time
  • New 7 mm MGs: +5 SL to repair cost, -2 m to weapon spread at 500 m distance and +19 % to mean time between failures

Tier IV modifications:

  • Wings repair: +28 SL to repair cost, +7.9 km/h to top speed, +0.3 m/s to climb rate and -0.3 seconds to turn time
  • Engine injection: +9 SL to repair cost, +5 km/h to top speed, +1.1 m/s to climb rate and -0.2 seconds to turn time
  • Cover: +24 SL to repair cost, +2.9 km/h to top speed, +0.5 m/s to climb rate and -0.2 seconds to turn time
  • New 12 mm MGs: +8 SL to repair cost, -1 m to weapon spread at 500 m distance and +14 % to mean time between failures

History of creation and combat usage

The last biplane fighter in use by the United States Navy, the Grumman F3F first flew on 20 March 1935, and entered front-line service with VF-5B of USS Ranger the following March. The improved F3F-2 model-fitted with a more powerful Wright R-1820-22 Cyclone nine-cylinder engine-entered service between 1937-38 and proved to be the ultimate evolution of American biplane fighter design; it also earned the nickname "Flying Barrel" due to its modified engine cowling, which had to be larger to fit the new and bigger 1820 cubic-inch (29.88-litre) radial powerplant. The modifications allowed the updated fighter to accelerate to a higher top speed of 264 miles per hour (425 km/h), improved its climbrate from 2050 to 2750 ft/min (10.4 m/s to 13.7 m/s) and also expanded its service ceiling to 33,200 feet (10,120 m). Despite already being obsolete by the time it was introduced, Navy pilots loved the tough little Grumman fighter, and the F3F also influenced and provided a starting point for the design of Grumman's more successful wartime F4F Wildcat monoplane fighter.

Eighty-one F3F-2s were procured, and served with VF-6 aboard the USS Enterprise as well as Marine squadrons VMF-1 and VMF-2. The last F3Fs in front-line use by carrier squadrons were gone by 1941 (replaced by newer Brewster F2A Buffalo monoplanes), but remained in use for training and transport duties during the first two or so years of the United States' involvement in World War II, the last of which was retired in November 1943.

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the F3F from live.warthunder.com.

Additional information (links)

Some information on the F3F, in all its variants
English Wikipedia article about the F3F
War Thunder Live camouflages for the F3F

References


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Icon-country-usa.png F3F-2
Nation USA
Type Naval fighter
Fighting style Turn Fighting

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Characteristics
Empty Weight ~1480 kg
Empty Weight + fuel ~1888 kg
Takeoff Weight ~2500 kg
Wing Area ~24 m²
Number of Engines 1
Air Breaks no
Arrestor Gear yes
Statistics
Power per Engine 800 hp
WEP Duration infinite
top speed ~436.00 kph at 4268 m
Climb Rate ~16.00 m/s
Turn Time ~15.00 s
Wing loading (Empty) ~61.00 kg/m²
Characteristics
Empty Weight ~3263 lb
Empty Weight + fuel ~4162 lb
Takeoff Weight ~5512 lb
Wing Area ~260 ft²
Number of Engines 1
Air Breaks no
Arrestor Gear yes
Statistics
Power per Engine 800 hp
WEP Duration infinite
Top speed ~270.92 mph at 14003 m
Climb Rate 52.49 ft/s
Turn Time 15.00 s
Wing loading (Empty) ~12.49 lb/ft²
Main Weapons
1 x Browning 500 rpg
1 x M2/early Browning 200 rpg
Payload Option 1
Nothing Loaded Clean Plane
Payload Option 2
2 x 💣 100 lbs AN-M30 Bomb
Limits
Max Speed limit 703 kph
Gear lmit 500 kph
Max static +G's ~NaN
Max static -G's ~8
Optimal Velocities
Ailerons <320 kph
Rudder <390 kph
Elevators <350 kph
Radiator >200 kph
Limits
Max Speed limit 437 mph
Gear lmit 311 mph
Max static +G's ~NaN
Max static -G's ~8
Optimal Velocities
Ailerons <199 mph
Rudder <242 mph
Elevators <217 mph
Radiator >124 mph
Manual Control
Mixer is controllable
Pitch is controllable
no automatic pitch
Radiator (water) is controllable
Radiator (oil) is not controllable
Oil and water uses combined radiator control
Supercharger is controllable
Turbocharger is not controllable
Compressor settings 1
Optimal Altitude
1600 m
5249 ft
100% Enginepower 850 hp
WEP Enginepower 952 hp
Compressor settings 2
Optimal Altitude
4214 m
13825 ft
100% Enginepower 750 hp
WEP Enginepower 840 hp
* Warning this is still in the test phase and can be incorrect. Take information with a grain of salt (data from 1.57 initial release)