F-86F-25 Sabre
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General info
The F-86F-25 Sabre is a Rank V American jet fighter with a batte rating of 8.0 (AB) and 9.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.35.
The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations
General play style
The F-86 F-25 differs greatly from it's A-5 predecessor as it no longer has leading edge slats on the wings which increase low speed maneuverability. This was removed from the F model Sabres as North American Aviation (the maker of the Sabre) saw that low speed dogfights were a rare occasion. A more powerful engine was also installed inside the F-86 giving it a better rate of climb, acceleration and top speed. In the F model the biggest difference between was the addition of the "all flying tail" which allowed for high speed maneuvering.
What the Sabre is best at doing is high speed maneuvering as it's main opponent the MiG-15bis doesn't have the 'all flying tail' so it's control surfaces lock up at speeds exceeding 500 mph (800 kph). Just don't maneuver to the point of tearing your wings as that is a problem that inexperienced pilots do when first using the aircraft. Since a new engine was installed, your rate of climb has increased exponentially, but not to the point to out climbing the MiG-15bis but your Sabre can easily out dive the lighter MiG-15.
Vehicle characteristics
Tactics
Specific enemies worth noting
Counter-tactics
Pros and cons
Pros:
- High roll rate.
- Second Highest top speed.
- Good performance below 8 km altitude.
- Nose mounted weaponry.
- Good zooming ability.
- Very good diving acceleration.
- Very effective aerodynamic brake.
- Very good maneuverability at high speeds and in horizontal.
Cons:
- Moderate acceleration.
- Poor climb rate in a sustained climb.
- Poor maneuverability at low speeds and in vertical.
Specifications
Armaments
Offensive armaments
- 6 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine gun, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,800 total)
Payloads
Bombs
Nation | Mass (nominal) | Name | Caliber | Drag | Damage Rating |
Radius | Pen | Damage Rating |
Radius | Pen |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Bomb properties | High explosive | Fragmentation | ||||||||
Germany |
1,000 kg | SC 1000L2 | 450 | 33 | 360.4 | 30m | 250mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm |
250 kg | SC 250Ja | 285 | 16.9 | 6.3 | 10m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
50 kg | SC 50Ja | 152 | 4.3 | 0 | 3m | 35mm | 51.3 | 40m | 10mm | |
500 kg | SC 500K | 392 | 23.7 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
10 kg | SD 10C | 152 | 0.8 | 0.3 | 5m | 8mm | 0 | 15m | 5mm | |
10 kg | SD 10a | 152 | 0.8 | 0.5 | 5m | 10mm | 0 | 15m | 5mm | |
Japan |
250 kg | mod.25 mk 2 | 285 | 16.9 | 6.3 | 10m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm |
500 kg | mod. 50 mk 2 | 392 | 23.7 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
800 kg | mod. 80 mk 1 | 450 | 49.6 | 640.9 | 40m | 250mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
250 kg | Type 92 mod. 25 | 285 | 16.9 | 6.3 | 10m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
500 kg | Type 92 mod. 50 | 392 | 23.7 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
100 kg | Type 94 mod. 10 | 267 | 9.3 | 0.9 | 6m | 75mm | 102.3 | 45m | 12mm | |
50 kg | Army Type 94 mod. 5 | 152 | 4.3 | 0 | 3m | 35mm | 51.3 | 40m | 10mm | |
60 kg | Type 97 mod. 6 | 152 | 4.3 | 0 | 3m | 35mm | 51.3 | 40m | 10mm | |
250 kg | Type 98 mod.25 | 285 | 16.9 | 6.3 | 10m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
800kg | Type 99 mod. 25 | 450 | 49.6 | 640.9 | 40m | 250mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
800 kg | Navy Type 99 No. 80 mod. 1 | 450 | 49.6 | 640.9 | 40m | 250mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
USSR |
100 kg | FAB-100 | 267 | 9.3 | 0.9 | 6m | 75mm | 102.3 | 45m | 12mm |
1,000 kg | FAB-1000 | 450 | 33 | 360.4 | 30m | 250mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
250 kg | FAB-250M-43 | 285 | 16.9 | 6.3 | 10m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
50 kg | FAB-50 | 152 | 4.3 | 0 | 3m | 35mm | 51.3 | 40m | 10mm | |
500 kg | FAB-500 | 392 | 23.7 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
1,500 kg | FAB-1500M-46 | 450 | 33 | 2452.7 | 70m | 450mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
3,000 kg | FAB-3000M-46 | 450 | 33 | 8493.2 | 100m | 500mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
Britain |
453 kg | 1000 lb GP | 392 | 37 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm |
453 kg | 1000 lb GP mk 1 | 392 | 37 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
453 kg | 1000 lb MC mk 1 | 392 | 37 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
113.4 kg | 250 lb | 267 | 0 | 5.4 | 13m | 78mm | 100.6 | 48m | 12mm | |
113.4 kg | 250 lb 43 | 267 | 0 | 5.4 | 13m | 78mm | 100.6 | 48m | 12mm | |
113.4 kg | 250 lb late | 267 | 0 | 5.4 | 13m | 78mm | 100.6 | 48m | 12mm | |
226.8 kg | 500 lb | 285 | 16.9 | 15.7 | 16m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
226.8 kg | 500 lb 43 | 285 | 16.9 | 15.7 | 16m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
1,815 kg | mk 2 Cookie | 450 | 100 | 4955.1 | 80m | 400mm | 87.6 | 200m | 15mm | |
USA |
453.6 kg | 1000lb AN-M65 cone | 392 | 37 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm |
453.6 kg | 1000 lb AN-M65A1 | 392 | 37 | 100 | 25m | 160mm | 100 | 120m | 15mm | |
45.4 kg | 100 lb AN-M30A1 | 152 | 4.3 | 1 | 8m | 50mm | 51.3 | 40m | 10mm | |
907.2 kg | 2000 lb AN-M66A2 | 450 | 49.6 | 640.9 | 40m | 250mm | 94.4 | 150m | 15mm | |
113.4 kg | 250 lb AN-M57 | 267 | 9.3 | 4.1 | 12m | 75mm | 102.3 | 45m | 12mm | |
226.8 kg | 500 lb AN-M64A1 | 285 | 16.9 | 15.7 | 16m | 100mm | 111 | 80m | 12mm | |
France |
kg | 100 kg No. 1 | m | mm | m | mm | ||||
kg | 200 kg No. 1 | m | mm | m | mm | |||||
kg | 500 kg No. 2 | m | mm | m | mm |
Aircraft Rockets
Nation | Mass | Name | Velocity | Caliber | Drag | Damage Rating |
Radius | Pen | Damage Rating |
Radius | Pen |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Rocket properties | High explosive | Fragmentation | |||||||||
Germany |
110.9 kg | BR 20 | 350 m/s | 210 | 100 | 210.8 | 5 m | 75 mm | 100 | 50 m | 10 mm |
3.85 kg | R4M Orkan | 525 m/s | 55 | 0 | 0.6 | 1 m | 12 mm | 5.2 | 25 m | 8 mm | |
2.78 kg | RZ 65 Föhn | 260 m/s | 73 | 17.5 | 0 | 0.9 m | 10 mm | 13.1 | 15 m | 8 mm | |
Japan |
60 kg | 60 kg | 340 m/s | 82 | 21.1 | 99.9 | 6 m | 60 mm | 0 | 15 m | 8 mm |
USSR |
41.9 kg | RS-132 | 350 m/s | 132 | 14 | 27.9 | 3 m | 75 mm | 43.3 | 25 m | 10 mm |
7.84 kg | RS-82 | 340 m/s | 82 | 0 | 0.6 | 1 m | 23 mm | 16.9 | 12 m | 8 mm | |
Britain |
64 kg | HVAR | 420 m/s | 127 | 14 | 29.3 | 3.5 m | 75 mm | 98.6 | 17 m | 12 mm |
43 kg | RP-3 | 350 m/s | 76 | 10.5 | 35.8 | 3.5m | 75 mm | 56.7 | 15 m | 5 mm | |
USA |
583 kg | 11.75 in Tiny Tim | 300 m/s | 298 | 17.5 | 1,289.2 | 13 m | 120 mm | 183.4 | 45 m | 12 mm |
64 kg | 5 in HVAR | 420 m/s | 127 | 14 | 29.3 | 3.5 m | 75 mm | 98.6 | 17 m | 12 mm | |
17 kg | M8 Bazooka | 250 m/s | 114 | 3.5 | 6 | 1 m | 29 mm | 16.8 | 25 m | 7 mm |
Engine & mobility
Engine
- Takeoff thrust: 2470.5 kgf (Stock), ____ kgf (Upgraded)
- Mass: 900 kg
- Takeoff thrust: 2115.8 kgf (Stock), ____ kgf (Upgraded)
- Mass: 900 kg
- Takeoff thrust: 2115.8 kgf (Stock), ____ kgf (Upgraded)
- Mass: 900 kg
Stats
- Max speed: 1,095 km/h
- at height: at sea level
- Max altitude: 14,000 m
- Turn Time: 24.7 s
- Rate of Climb: 38.8 m/s
- Takeoff run: 700 m
Upgraded
- Max speed: ____ km/h
- at height: at sea level
- Max altitude: 14,000 m
- Turn Time: __._ s
- Rate of Climb: __._ m/s
- Takeoff run: 700 m
- Max speed: 1,071 km/h
- at height: at sea level
- Max altitude: 14,000 m
- Turn Time: 25.9 s
- Rate of Climb: 28.8 m/s
- Takeoff run: 700 m
Upgraded
- Max speed: ____ km/h
- at height: at sea level
- Max altitude: 14,000 m
- Turn Time: __._ s
- Rate of Climb: __._ m/s
- Takeoff run: 700 m
- Max speed: 1,071 km/h
- at height: at sea level
- Max altitude: 14,000 m
- Turn Time: 25.9 s
- Rate of Climb: 28.8 m/s
- Takeoff run: 700 m
Upgraded
- Max speed: ____ km/h
- at height: at sea level
- Max altitude: 14,000 m
- Turn Time: __._ s
- Rate of Climb: __._ m/s
- Takeoff run: 700 m
Performance
Horsepower graph
Warning this is still in the test phase and can be incorrect. Take information with a grain of salt (data from 1.55)
Supercharger Stage #1: 100%
Supercharger Stage #1: WEP
Thrust graph
Modules and improvements
Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry |
---|---|---|---|
I | Fuselage repair, Compressor | Offensive 12 mm | |
II | New boosters | Airframe | FRC mk.2 |
III | Wings repair, Engine | New 12 mm MGs | |
IV | G-suit | Cover | FLBC mk.1 |
History of creation and combat usage
The F-86 is considered one of the best fighter jets of the Korean War. It is the most-produced Western fighter, with almost 10,000 aircraft produced by the US, Australia, Canada (as the re-engined CL-13), Italy, and Japan.
The F-86 was developed by North American Aviation, the creator of the venerable P-51 Mustang. The XP-86 prototype was created to meet the USAF requirement for a high-altitude escort fighter. It was derived from the Navy's FJ-1 Fury, a transitional fighter jet that borrowed the wings, tail surfaces and canopy from the P-51D. The XP-86 was under threat of cancellation because the XP-80 and XP-84 had similar performance characteristics and were farther ahead in development. However, North American designers made a radical change to the design and replaced the straight wing with a swept wing, which was shown by seized German research to greatly reduce drag and increase performance at high speed. The resulting performance boost was so significant that the swept-wing prototype of the XP-86 was supposedly able break the sound barrier in a dive a few days before Chuck Yeager made his official attempt.
The F-86F is a further development of the F-86E, which introduced a full power-operated control system and the all-flying tail, in which the entire horizontal stabilizer moves to significantly increase the aircraft's maneuverability at high speed. The F-86F is fitted with the uprated J47-GE-27 engine. The leading edge slats featured on earlier Sabre models were removed in later production versions of the F-86F in favor of more space for fuel. Some of the earlier F-86F models had the static leading edge slats retrofitted. It also carried over the capability to carry tactical nuclear weapons from the F-86E.
Screenshots and fan art
Skins and camouflages for the F-86F-25 from live.warthunder
Additional information (links)
References
Horsepower graph | Sidebar | Thrust |
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F-86F-25 Sabre |
Nation | USA |
Type | Jet Fighter |
Fighting style | Boom & Zoom Jet Combat |
Metric✓ Imperial
Metric Imperial✓
Characteristics | |
Empty Weight | ~5430 kg |
Empty Weight + fuel | ~6714 kg |
Takeoff Weight | ~9530 kg |
Wing Area | ~28 m² |
# Flap Positions | 3 |
Number of Engines | 1 |
Air Breaks | yes |
Arrestor Gear | no |
Statistics | |
Thrust per Engine | 2600 kN |
WEP Duration | infinite |
top speed | ~1105.99 kph at 0 m |
Climb Rate | ~46.70 m/s |
Optimal climb velocity | ~774.71 kph |
Turn Time | ~24.00 s |
Wing loading (Empty) | ~193.00 kg/m² |
Characteristics | |
Empty Weight | ~11971 lb |
Empty Weight + fuel | ~14801 lb |
Takeoff Weight | ~21010 lb |
Wing Area | ~304 ft² |
# Flap Positions | 3 |
Number of Engines | 1 |
Air Breaks | yes |
Arrestor Gear | no |
Statistics | |
Thrust per Engine | 2600 kN |
WEP Duration | infinite |
Top speed | ~687.23 mph at 0 m |
Climb Rate | 153.22 ft/s |
Optimal climb velocity | ~481.38 mph |
Turn Time | 24.00 s |
Wing loading (Empty) | ~39.53 lb/ft² |
Main Weapons | |
6 x M3 Browning | 300 RPG |
Payload Option 1 | |
Nothing Loaded | Clean Plane |
Payload Option 2 | |
16 x HVAR | 🚀 Rocket |
Payload Option 3 | |
2 x 1000 lbs AN-M65A1 Fin M129 | 💣 Bomb |
Limits | |
Max Speed limit | 1170 kph |
Gear lmit | 350 kph |
Combat Flaps | 620 kph |
Max static +G's | ~12 |
Max static -G's | ~7 |
Optimal Velocities | |
Ailerons | <850 kph |
Rudder | <600 kph |
Elevators | <650 kph |
Radiator | >250 kph |
Limits | |
Max Speed limit | 727 mph |
Gear lmit | 217 mph |
Combat Flaps | 385 mph |
Max static +G's | ~12 |
Max static -G's | ~7 |
Optimal Velocities | |
Ailerons | <528 mph |
Rudder | <373 mph |
Elevators | <404 mph |
Radiator | >155 mph |
Manual Control | |
Mixer | is not controllable |
Pitch | is not controllable no automatic pitch |
Radiator (water) | is not controllable |
Radiator (oil) | is not controllable |
Oil and water | uses combined radiator control |
Supercharger | is not controllable |
Turbocharger | is not controllable |