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{{About
 
{{About
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| about = French jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=the regular version
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| usage = the other version
|link=Chi-Nu
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| link = M.D.452 IIA
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_Chi-NuII.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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[[File:GarageImage_M.D.452IIC.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced with the initial Japanese Ground Forces tree in [[Update 1.65 "Way of the Samurai"]], but was released once all the rank III Japanese tanks were available to the public in the Closed Beta Test. It costs 1,600 Golden Eagles. The Chi-Nu II is essentially the [[Chi-Nu|Chi-Nu]] body with the turret from the [[Chi-To|Chi-To]], giving the tank access to the high-power [[Type 5 (75 mm)|Type 5 75 mm]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
 
 
The Chi-Nu II is a combination between two vehicle, the Type 3 Chi-Nu and the Type 4 Chi-To. It has the armour of the former, but the gun of the latter. Thus, while presenting itself as a more vulnerable body with only around 50 mm of armour, it has slightly better mobility than the Chi-To, a smaller profile, yet carries the same gun. Like the Chi-To, the Chi-Nu II should be played in a sniper-like format from a distance rather than up-close to the enemy and fighting them in close-quarters.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Survivability and armour ===
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=== Flight Performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 
 
If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.-->
 
'''Armour type:'''
 
 
 
* Rolled homogeneous armour
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
|-
 
! Armour !! Front !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
|-
 
| Hull || 50 mm (15°) ''Front plate'' <br> 12 mm (76°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 50 mm (20°) ''Joint plate'' <br> 8.5 mm (65°) ''Lower glacis'' || 20 mm (15-30°) ''Top'' <br> 25 mm ''Bottom'' || 20 mm (0-20°) ''Top'' <br> 8.5 mm (63°) ''Bottom'' || 12 mm
 
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| Turret || 50 mm (16°) ''Turret front'' <br> 50 mm (10°) ''Gun mantlet'' || 25 mm (9-10°) || 25 mm || 12 mm
 
|-
 
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
 
|-
 
| Cupola || 50 mm || 12 mm
 
|-
 
|}
 
'''Notes:'''
 
 
 
* Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.
 
  
=== Mobility ===
 
<!--Write about the mobility of the ground vehicle. Estimate the specific power and manoeuvrability, as well as the maximum speed forwards and backwards.-->
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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! Weight (tons)
 
! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons)
 
! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
 
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| rowspan="2" | 19.8 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 43 (AB)
 
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|39 (RB/SB)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed (km/h at Sea level)
!Stock
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
!Upgraded
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
|-
|''Arcade''
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! AB
|372
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! RB
|458
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
|-
 
|-
|''Realistic/Simulator''
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| 1,036 || 1,027 || {{Specs|ceiling}} ||26.4|| 27.0 ||33.3||31.6|| 800
|212
 
|240
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="1" | Mode
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at Sea level)
!Stock
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
!Upgraded
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
|-
 
|-
|''Arcade''
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! AB
|18.79
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! RB
|23.13
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 800
|10.71
 
|12.12
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
== Armaments ==
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====Details====
=== Main armament ===
 
<!--Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.-->
 
{{main|Type 5 (75 mm)}}
 
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="6" | [[Type 5 (75 mm)|75 mm Type 5]]
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! colspan="5" | Features
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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| colspan="3" | 48 || -10°/+15° || ±180° || N/A
 
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 9.8 || 13.6 || __.__ || 29.2 || __.__
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 9.8 || 11.6 || __.__ || 15.5 || __.__
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! Combat flap
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! Take-off flap
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! Landing flap
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
 
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| 10.00 || __.__ || 8.2 || __.__
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| X || X || X || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
===== Ammunition =====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
 
 
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|-
! 10m
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! colspan="5" | Limits
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
! 2000m
 
 
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|-
| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 137 || 133 || 120 || 102 || 89 || 78
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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|-
| Type 4 Kou || APHE || 157 || 155 || 142 || 124 || 111 || 105
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! +
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! -
 
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| Type 90 HE || HE || 8 || 8 || 8 || 8 || 8 || 8
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| ??? ||445|| ??? || 11.5 ||3.7
 
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|-
 
|}
 
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
 
''in m:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
''in mm:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
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! 0%
 
! 50%
 
! 100%
 
 
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|-
| Type 1 APHE || APHE || 865 || 6.6 || 1.3 || 15 || 67.84 || ° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
 
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|-
| Type 4 Kou || APHE || 865 || 6.8 || 1.3 || 15 || 80.64 || ° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
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|-
| Type 90 HE || HE || 830 || 6.2 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 490 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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=== Survivability and armour ===
'''Last updated: 1.77.2.68'''
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<!--''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''-->
[[File:Ammoracks_Chi-NuII.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the Chi-Nu II.]]
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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* 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
|-
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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== Armaments ==
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br /> rack empty
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=== Offensive armament ===
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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<!--''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''-->
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{{main|DEFA 541 (30 mm)}}
|| '''48''' || 17&nbsp;''(+31)'' || 13&nbsp;''(+35)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+47)'' || style="text-align:left" | No
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, nose-mounted (150 RPG) = 300 total)
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The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just before the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire with each other until empty.
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=== Suspended armament===
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<!--''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''-->
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{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)|SNEB Type 23}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' utilize external pylons to carry various configurations of:
  
Turret empty: 17&nbsp;''(+31)''
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* None
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* 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs
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* 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets
  
=== Machine guns ===
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== Usage in battles ==
<!--Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.-->
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{{main|Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)}}
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The M.D.452 IIC offers better ordinance than it's an earlier in-game variant, the IIA. This makes it more effective in tank realistic battle and allows use as a fighter-bomber in air realistic battles. It is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, it opens up the playing field a bit more.
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="7" | [[Type 97 tank (7.7 mm)|7.7 mm Type 97]]
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! Tier
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! Flight performance
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
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! Survivability
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! Weaponry
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
 
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
|-
 
| colspan="4" | 1,000 (20) || 499 || -10°/+70° || ±60°
 
|-
 
|}
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="7" | [[Browning (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
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| IA
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| Fuselage Repair
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| Offensive 30 mm belts
 
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|-
! colspan="7" | ''Bow mount''
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| II
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| New Boosters/Compressor
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| Air frame
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| SBC-17 (500lb bombs) x2
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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| III
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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| Wing Repair/Engine
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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|  
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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| New 30 mm cannons/ LBC-25 (1000lb bombs x2
 
|-
 
|-
| colspan="4" | 3,000 (20) || 499 || -7°/+10° || ±19°
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| IV
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| G-suit
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| Cover
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| Matra SNEB Rockets x38
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
== Usage in battles ==
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=== Pros and cons ===
<!--Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).-->
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<!--''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''-->
 
 
Against the medium tanks, its simply getting the first shot off first as the 75 mm Type 5 cannon on the Chi-Nu could penetrate most through the front hull armour, with some levels of difficulty on the turret. Of course, for maximizing the Chi-Nu's own survival, attack from the sides and make sure the enemy is unaware of the Chi-Nu's presence.
 
 
 
The Chi-Nu II can meet heavy tanks, but will most likely be the 76 mm [[KV-1 (L-11)|KV-1]] [[KV-1S|series]] [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)|tanks]], which the 75 mm can easily punch through the front armour. The Chi-Nu II can still meet the British [[Churchill Mk VII]], which is impervious to the high-penetrating 75 mm from the front, so beware if caught in a frontal engagement.
 
  
=== Pros and cons ===
 
<!--Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".-->
 
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Powerful 75 mm cannon rivaling the [[T-34-85|T-34-85]], good penetration and very low shell drop-off
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* Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
* Decent gun depression of -10°
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* High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
* Good handling, same as Chi-Nu
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* Good turn rate between 550 kph and 700 kph
* Fast and mobile
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* Decent climb rate
* Narrow chassis allows access through areas inaccessible by wider tanks
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* Payloads can include bombs or rockets
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* More effective air brake than its predecessors
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* A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
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* Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
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* DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 4 or 5 HE rounds striking
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Chi-Nu's 50 mm armour is vulnerable to most incoming fire
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* Slow compared to other contemporary aircraft
* Most part of armour is only lightly sloped, even the turret
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* Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
* Reload rate quite slow
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* Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult
* Angling front armour can expose weaker 35 mm side armour
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* Subpar performance compared to other 8.7s like the MiG 15 Bis and Swift F7
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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===Development===
 
The lackluster performance of Japanese tanks in World War II called for the development of newer medium tanks in the Imperial Japanese Army. The standard tank of the time was the [[Chi-Ha|Type 97 Chi-Ha]], which has its chassis used in many expedient models to provide a bigger gun for the Japanese inventory such as the [[Chi-Ha Kai|Chi-Ha Kai]], [[Chi-He|Type 1 Chi-He]], [[Ho-I|Type 2 Ho-I]], and [[Chi-Nu|Type 3 Chi-Nu]]. Two new sophisticated tanks were also in development, the [[Chi-To|Type 4 Chi-To]] and the [[Chi-Ri II|Type 5 Chi-Ri]], both fielding the powerful Type 5 75 mm gun. However, these two tanks still needed time to iron out some design bugs, time that the Japanese did not have while being stared down by the Allied powers. To get the Type 5 gun out to their forces as fast as possible, designers sought a way to get the gun onto a vehicle as fast as possible. The solution laid on the Type 3 Chi-Nu, regarded as one of Japan's best tank since its production start date in 1943.<ref name="SenshaManualChiNuII">Sun, Eun Ae. ''[WT] Type3 Chi-Nu II'' SENSHA. Blogger.com, 15 Jan. 2017. Web. 24 Jan. 2017. [http://sensha-manual.blogspot.com/2017/01/wt-type3-chi-nu-ii.html Website]</ref>
 
 
 
The Chi-To's prototype models had larger turrets that were different from the main production model. Instead of wasting these turrets, the Japanese decided to use them on the Chi-Nu body. In March 1945, a Chi-To prototype turret was attached onto Chi-Nu chassis #37. This upgraded Chi-Nu, along the line of the Chi-Ha's upgrade, was informally labeled the ''Chi-Nu Kai''. The design was tested on the Irago Firing Grounds on March 19th and proved itself very satisfactory in combat roles. The final design was to equip the Chi-Nu with production model Chi-To turret to increase production levels and it was to help improve Japan's armoured forces to stand up against the Allies' might. This Chi-Nu with the production Chi-To turret was known as '''Chi-Nu II'''.<ref name="SenshaManualChiNuII" />
 
 
 
===War's end===
 
Like most of the Japanese late-war tanks developed and retained in the home island for the "final defense", the modified Chi-Nu and its counterparts never saw battle against Allied armour. Japan surrendered in September 1945, effectively ending World War II. A few Chi-Nu IIs were made before the end, but they are most likely sent to the scrap yard along with most of the other Japanese equipment with their demilitarization.<ref name="SenshaManualChiNuII" />
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
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* ''other literature.''-->
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* ''other literature.''
* [[wt:en/news/4428-development-type-3-chi-nu-ii-crouching-tiger-en/|[Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 3 Chi-Nu II - Crouching Tiger]]
 
* [[wt:en/news/4468-a-new-japanese-premium-tank-the-chi-nu-ii-is-now-available-for-purchase-en/|[News<nowiki>]</nowiki> A new Japanese premium tank, the Chi-Nu II is now available for purchase]]
 
  
{{Japan medium tanks}}
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{{French fighters}}
{{Japan premium ground vehicles}}
 

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This page is about the French jet fighter M.D.452 IIC. For the other version, see M.D.452 IIA.

Description

GarageImage M.D.452 IIC.jpg


The M.D.452 Mystere IIC pre-production is a rank V French jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). This aircraft was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed (km/h at Sea level) Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
1,036 1,027 13000 26.4 27.0 33.3 31.6 800
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at Sea level)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 13000  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 800

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
 ??? 445  ??? 11.5 3.7
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< ??? < ??? < ??? > ???

Survivability and armour

  • 40 mm Bulletproof glass in front of the pilot
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate around the bottom of the cockpit, front and rear
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 541 (30 mm)

The M.D.452 IIC is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 541 cannons, nose-mounted (150 RPG) = 300 total)

The two cannons are arranged in the belly portion of the fuselage exiting the aircraft just before the pilot's location. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that both guns will fire with each other until empty.

Suspended armament

The M.D.452 IIC utilize external pylons to carry various configurations of:

  • None
  • 2 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs
  • 38 x SNEB Type 23 rockets

Usage in battles

The M.D.452 IIC offers better ordinance than it's an earlier in-game variant, the IIA. This makes it more effective in tank realistic battle and allows use as a fighter-bomber in air realistic battles. It is generally more manoeuvrable than most other contemporary aircraft it faces, the only ones you would have a tough time turning with at this battle rating would be any of the Sabres. Since its roll rate is comparable to the Sabre's once the "New Boosters" modification is installed, it opens up the playing field a bit more.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
IA Fuselage Repair Offensive 30 mm belts
II New Boosters/Compressor Air frame SBC-17 (500lb bombs) x2
III Wing Repair/Engine New 30 mm cannons/ LBC-25 (1000lb bombs x2
IV G-suit Cover Matra SNEB Rockets x38

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent armament of 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons (higher muzzle velocity and RoF than the ADEN cannon)
  • High roll rate, matches the Sabre's roll rate with "New boosters" modification installed
  • Good turn rate between 550 kph and 700 kph
  • Decent climb rate
  • Payloads can include bombs or rockets
  • More effective air brake than its predecessors
  • A lot of ammo for only 2 x 30 mm DEFA cannons
  • Guns being mounted under the nose makes it easy to head on planes upside down
  • DEFA cannons can easily down a plane with 4 or 5 HE rounds striking

Cons:

  • Slow compared to other contemporary aircraft
  • Poor horizontal energy retention compared to its predecessors
  • Fragile; a few hits of enemy fire will make controlling the aircraft more difficult
  • Subpar performance compared to other 8.7s like the MiG 15 Bis and Swift F7

History

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Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
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France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900