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{{Specs-Card|code=sa_313b}}
 
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{{About
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| about = German utility helicopter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| usage = other uses
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| link = Alouette (Family)
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} gift Russian flying boat {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced in [[Update 1.71 "New E.R.A"]]. It was discontinued after the 2018 Victory Day sales.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} German utility helicopter {{Battle-rating|1}}. This helicopter was introduced in [[Update_1.83_"Masters_of_the_Sea"|Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea"]]. A French design, the ''Alouette II'' was in West-German service and could carry a multitude of armaments.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, manoeuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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! colspan="4" | Characteristics
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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! colspan="4" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,135 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
! AB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
|-
|397||386|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||29.1||30.1||7.2||7.1||1,000
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}  
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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! colspan="4" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 2,135 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at ?,000 m)
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
! AB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
|-
|441||418|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||26.9||28.0||11.1||9.0||1,000
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| ? || ? || {{Specs|ceiling}}  
 
|-
 
|-
|}
 
 
====Details====
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
! Combat flap
 
! Take-off flap
 
! Landing flap
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
|-
 
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Limits
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
 
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
! +
 
! -
 
|-
 
| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} ||300|| ~5 || ~3
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
 
|-
 
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
 
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
|-
 
| < 350 || < 350 || < 350 || < 300
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 1
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
|-
 
| 1,300 m || 2,250 hp || 2,441 hp
 
|-
 
<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
|-
 
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
|-
 
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|- -->
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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''Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, how many engines the vehicle has. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
 
 
* 8 mm steel - behind each pilot
 
* 10 mm steel - around tail guns
 
* 9.5 mm steel - between tail guns and gunners window
 
* 105 mm bulletproof glass - tail gunner's window
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
=== Suspended armament ===
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=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|FAB-250M43 (250 kg)|FAB-500 (500 kg)|FAB-1500M-46 (1,500 kg)|45-36MAN}}
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{{main|MG 3 (7.62 mm)}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* 4 x 7.62 mm MG 3 machine gun (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
  
* 8 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs
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The four machine guns are arranged with two above each landing skid. Only the default ammo belt is available. Due to their low caliber, they have limited effectiveness against helicopters and planes, and are almost useless against all but the lightest-armoured ground vehicles. However, they have a high rate of fire (1,200 rpm), which aids damage output at the expensive of total firing time.
* 2 x 450 mm 45-36MAN torpedoes
 
* 8 x 500 kg FAB-500 (welded) bombs
 
* 2 x 1,500 kg FAB-1500M-46 bombs
 
  
=== Defensive armament ===
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=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|NR-23 (23 mm)}}
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{{main|SNEB 37|SS.11}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
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* 72 x 37 mm SNEB rockets
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* 4 x SS.11 missiles
  
* 1 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, nose turret (100 rpg)
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With only 20 grams of explosive mass and at most 10 mm of penetration, the Alouette's SNEB rockets are highly ineffective against armoured targets. For use in ground RB, the mouse guided SS.11 missiles are more recommendable. Although many fewer missiles can be carried, they are able to severely damage and destroy enemy tanks, unlike SNEB rockets. It is important to note that although SS.11 missiles are usable, they are much worse than many missiles carried by other helicopters, and that the Alouette's anti-tank armament is weak in general.
* 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, dorsal turret (250 rpg = 500 total)
 
* 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannon, tail turret (225 rpg = 450 total)
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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''Describe the tactics of playing in the helicopter, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
 
 
The best payload for base bombing is the 4 x 500 kg option, allowing you to take out to bases (requiring 4 bombs each. The 2 x 1,500 option is rarely recommended (except maybe when airfield bombing) as both bombs drop at once, limiting you to once base or target, despite the increased bomb load.
 
 
 
A different approach is to select the airfield spawn (you spawn just above the runway) and the hug the ground, either attacking ground targets or bases (if there are any left). This has the advantage of meaning your team mates will be more likely to cover you (they don't have to climb up to your altitude), and makes you harder to spot for enemy aircraft. It also means enemy aircraft cannot get below you and exploit your blind spot. However you will likely be to slow to kill bases if there are any other bombers on your team (they will get their first). It is also not recommended to bomb the airfield at low altitude as you will be food for the AAA.
 
 
 
Keep a constant lookout and use your potent defensive armament to dispatch of attacking enemy aircraft as quickly as possible.
 
 
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
 
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
 
! colspan="3" |Radiator
 
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
 
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
 
|-
 
! Oil
 
! Water
 
! Type
 
|-
 
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" |Combined|| rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable
 
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|}
 
 
 
===Modules===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
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| I
 
| Fuselage Repair
 
| Radiator
 
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|Turret 23 mm
 
|T-18
 
|-
 
| II
 
|
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
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|KD-3
 
|-
 
| III
 
| Wings Repair
 
| Engine
 
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|New 23 mm cannons (turret)
 
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|-
 
| IV
 
|
 
| Engine Injection
 
| Cover
 
|
 
|BD-4
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
  
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Good, destructive defensive armament
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* Good bomb load (can kill two bases in RB)
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* Turns fairly well
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'''Cons:'''
* Has two pilots (less chance of them being killed)
 
* Can land on water
 
* Can take a reasonable amount of damage
 
  
'''Cons:'''
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* Weak armour
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* SS.11 maximum range is 3 km
  
* Drops bombs in pairs halving number of targets you can hit (i.e. 8 bombs gives you 4 drops)
 
* Big target
 
* Engines are exposed and liable to be set on fire
 
* Turrets can not cover underneath
 
* Not the most stable of bombing platforms
 
* Lack of landing gear can make re-arming interesting on some maps (still possible but harder)
 
* Large control surfaces make big targets
 
* Fairly slow
 
* Very poor roll rate
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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The first prototype of the Be-6 flew in 1945, only a couple years after the initial plans for the new Soviet flying boat were laid down in 1943. Evaluation of the first prototype showed that the aircraft could be improved in some areas to achieve better performance. Thus, Beriev engineers equipped the following model, that would become the production version, with more powerful Shvetsov ASh-73 engines and changed the defensive armaments layout from six 12.7mm UBT machine guns to 23mm NR-23 cannons, followed by the reduction in turret count from 5 to 3. This improved variant had its maiden flight in 1951, with serial production following shortly after.
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The light, multipurpose, single-engined SA.313B Alouette II (French for “Skylark”) helicopter was developed by the French company Sud-Aviation in the 1960s and was widely used both by civilian and military organizations. Many other countries also obtained a license to manufacture these helicopters. In addition to civilian use, this light helicopter has a rich military history. The SA.313B fought wars in Algeria and Rhodesia and took part in several local conflicts. The model’s success is demonstrated by the fact that the SA.313B is still being used for civilian purposes and by the militaries of some countries nowadays.
  
After its introduction to service in 1951, the Be-6 was tasked with performing various roles fitted for a maritime aircraft, such as reconnaissance, sub-hunting, patrolling, transportation and mine-laying. The aircraft enjoyed a long service life thanks to the fact that significant changes within the Soviet navy, at least when float planes were concerned, were few and far between during the Cold War. However, the Be-6 didn’t only serve with the Soviet Union. The Chinese also received a number of Be-6s for their naval air force. The Be-6 remained in active military service with the Soviet Union until the late 1960’s, and up to the 1990’s with the Chinese Naval Air Force, thanks to modernization efforts. The Chinese changed, among other things, the powerplant of the Be-6 to the WJ-6 turboprop and redesignated the Be-6 to the Qing-6. A total of around 120 Be-6s were produced between 1949 - 1957.
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Since the SA.313B was not routinely equipped with weapons, this issue has been resolved directly in the places and countries where the vehicle has been used to fulfil combat objectives. The helicopter’s armament has been rather exotic at times, such as when rifles and machine guns have been mounted in the apertures of the glass-enclosed front cabin. For the purposes of the game, we have chosen more well-founded projects for arming the SA.313B implemented by French and German crews. Machine gun installations comprised of four 7.62mm MG3 light machine guns placed in pairs on the skids using special fixtures. As an anti-tank weapon, the helicopter could carry SNEB unguided rockets, as well as SS.11 guided anti-tank missiles that were located on special transverse tube-shaped beams along the sides of the fuselage.
  
''- From [[wt:en/news/4904-development-beriev-be-6-the-arctic-seagull-en|Devblog]]''
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''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5808-development-sa-313b-the-first-skylark-en Devblog]''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
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''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
 
 
{{Youtube-gallery|QnDCpUfDnqY||XjXVbMFA3Bg}}
 
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* ''other literature.''-->
  
* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/4904-development-beriev-be-6-the-arctic-seagull-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Beriev Be-6 - "The Arctic Seagull"]
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5808-development-sa-313b-the-first-skylark-en [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> SA.313B: The First Skylark]
  
{{USSR bombers}}
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{{Germany helicopters}}

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◄SA 313B Alouette II
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This page is about the German utility helicopter SA 313B Alouette II (Germany). For other uses, see Alouette (Family).

Description

The SA 313B Alouette II (Germany) in the garage


The ◄SA 313B Alouette II is a Rank V German utility helicopter with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/SB) and 8.3 (RB). This helicopter was introduced in Update 1.83 "Masters of the Sea". A French design, the Alouette II was in West-German service and could carry a multitude of armaments.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
AB RB
 ?  ? 2300
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at ?,000 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
AB RB
 ?  ? 2300

Survivability and armour

Examine the survivability of the helicopter. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, how many engines the vehicle has. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: MG 3 (7.62 mm)
  • 4 x 7.62 mm MG 3 machine gun (250 rpg = 1,000 total)

The four machine guns are arranged with two above each landing skid. Only the default ammo belt is available. Due to their low caliber, they have limited effectiveness against helicopters and planes, and are almost useless against all but the lightest-armoured ground vehicles. However, they have a high rate of fire (1,200 rpm), which aids damage output at the expensive of total firing time.

Suspended armament

Main articles: SNEB 37, SS.11
  • 72 x 37 mm SNEB rockets
  • 4 x SS.11 missiles

With only 20 grams of explosive mass and at most 10 mm of penetration, the Alouette's SNEB rockets are highly ineffective against armoured targets. For use in ground RB, the mouse guided SS.11 missiles are more recommendable. Although many fewer missiles can be carried, they are able to severely damage and destroy enemy tanks, unlike SNEB rockets. It is important to note that although SS.11 missiles are usable, they are much worse than many missiles carried by other helicopters, and that the Alouette's anti-tank armament is weak in general.

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the helicopter, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

  • Weak armour
  • SS.11 maximum range is 3 km


History

The light, multipurpose, single-engined SA.313B Alouette II (French for “Skylark”) helicopter was developed by the French company Sud-Aviation in the 1960s and was widely used both by civilian and military organizations. Many other countries also obtained a license to manufacture these helicopters. In addition to civilian use, this light helicopter has a rich military history. The SA.313B fought wars in Algeria and Rhodesia and took part in several local conflicts. The model’s success is demonstrated by the fact that the SA.313B is still being used for civilian purposes and by the militaries of some countries nowadays.

Since the SA.313B was not routinely equipped with weapons, this issue has been resolved directly in the places and countries where the vehicle has been used to fulfil combat objectives. The helicopter’s armament has been rather exotic at times, such as when rifles and machine guns have been mounted in the apertures of the glass-enclosed front cabin. For the purposes of the game, we have chosen more well-founded projects for arming the SA.313B implemented by French and German crews. Machine gun installations comprised of four 7.62mm MG3 light machine guns placed in pairs on the skids using special fixtures. As an anti-tank weapon, the helicopter could carry SNEB unguided rockets, as well as SS.11 guided anti-tank missiles that were located on special transverse tube-shaped beams along the sides of the fuselage.

- From Devblog

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


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Hip  ◊Mi-8TB
Hind  ◊Mi-24P · ◄Mi-24P HFS 80
Tiger  EC-665 Tiger UHT
Utility 
BO 105  BO 105 CB-2 · BO 105 PAH-1 · BO 105 PAH-1A1
Alouette  ◄SA 313B Alouette II
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