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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}'''''is a Swedish subsonic interceptor, combining excellent climb-rate and devastating firepower, both in terms of suspended and offensive armaments.  
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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[[File:F-104A in the sunset.jpg|alt=F-104 Starfighter breaks the soundbarrier at sunset with its afterburner roaring|thumb|A F-104A Starfighter breaks the sound barrier at sunset]]
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The Saab {{PAGENAME}} Lansen is a powerful interceptor built for all-weather operations. Being the descendant of the earlier [[A32A]], this version focuses on air-to-air combat instead of its previous role as an air-to-ground platform. To achieve this, the {{PAGENAME}} received the new RM6A engine. This engine is a Swedish license-produced variant of the Avon 300, producing a staggering 6810kgf when engaged with full afterburner. This engine was originally developed for the Lightning F.6. This makes the {{PAGENAME}} a subsonic plane with a supersonic engine, resulting in incredible acceleration and energy retention. Staying fast and avoiding dogfights is the main advantage of the {{PAGENAME}}, as the airframe is relatively large and cumbersome, not really meant for aerial maneuvers. However, a single pass is more than enough thanks to four center-mounted Akan. m/55 cannons, with a incredible 24kg burst mass. The {{PAGENAME}} is also outfitted with four Rb24 air-to-air missiles capable of killing enemies far beyond the planes reach. This, combined with the incredible thrust, let's the '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' decide when, and how to strike down opponents. A luxury most planes can only dream of.
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The F-104's are generally very fast and the F-104A is no exception. Even when it is stock the climb rate can be comparable to that of both the MiG's and the Phantom's. It's max speed of 2,079 kph is just as good if not better than other top tier jets. The acceleration of the F-104A is amazing so even when you are at low speeds it can quickly gain back the lossed energy. However, the jets maneuverability leaves much more to be desired. Although it can out turn other jets at it's BR it can only do so when it is going above mach 1, at low speeds any other top tier jets can easily out turn you. The F-104A  can only carry one load, 2 AIM-9B sidewinder air to air missiles. AIM-9B's are very difficult to use as they only pull 10G's and travel at 1.7 mach making hitting targets very difficult.
 
  
 
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 10,668 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! Stock
 
! Stock
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| 2,104 || 2,079 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 32.4 || 33.0 || 190.9 || 182.9 || rowspan="2" | 1,180
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| 1,133 || 1,128 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 34.4 || 34.6 || 84.5 || 78.5 || rowspan="2" | 900
 
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! Upgraded
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| 1,148 || 1,140 || 33.6 || 34.0 || 119.5 || 101.0
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X     <!-- ✓ -->
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 2,350 || 833 || 444 || ~12 || ~5
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 550 || 550 || 320 || ~10 || ~4
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
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|-
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| < 720 || < 950 || < 800 || N/A
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| < 850 || < 650 || < 600 || N/A
 
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|}
  
 
==== Engine performance ====
 
==== Engine performance ====
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[[File:J32B_Armor_ Protection.png|thumb|right|400px|Thickness of each armour section located in the {{PAGENAME}}.]]
 
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! colspan="3" | Engine
 
! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
 
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
 
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="3" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
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| colspan="2" | General Electric J79-GE-3 || 1
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| colspan="2" | Svenska Flygmotor RM6A || 1
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| colspan="2" | 6,182 kg || colspan="3" | 513 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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| colspan="2" | 8,680 kg || colspan="2" | 307 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
 
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="4" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
 
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
 
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 28m fuel
 
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| 1,750 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
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| 6,947 kg || 7,712 kg || 8,477 kg || 8,859 kg || 24,000 kg
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| 9,491 kg || 10,675 kg || 11,464 kg || 13,500 kg
 
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 10m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || 35m fuel || MTOW
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 28m fuel || MTOW
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 3,936 kgf || 6,061 kgf
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| ''Stationary'' || 4,727 kgf || 6,807 kgf
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| 0.87 || 0.79 || 0.71 || 0.68 || 0.25
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| 0.72 || 0.64 || 0.59 || 0.50
 
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,936 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || 7,751 kgf<br />(1,200 km/h)
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| 1.12 || 1.00 || 0.91 || 0.87 || 0.32
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| 0.76 || 0.67 || 0.63 || 0.53
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
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In terms of armour, there is no armour on the F-104A. Since the F-104A relies on high speed, it wouldn't need armour as that would reduce the speed and maneuverability of the plane.  
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* 5 mm steel plate - cockpit floor and spacer plate between frontal armour.
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* 10 mm steel plate - behind the pilot and GIB's seats
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* 15 mm steel plate - armour plates in front of the cockpit section
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* 50 mm bulletproof glass - armoured canopy windscreen
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The {{PAGENAME}} features good pilot protection. A 50mm bulletproof screen, and plates surrounding the two pilots, reaching thickness levels of between 5 to 15 millimeters. These plates were originally meant to save the pilot from incoming ground-fire due to it's earlier ground-attack purpose. Thanks to this excellent protection, as well as having two pilots instead of one, dying by a pilot knockout is highly unlikely in comparison to other fighters of the same rank. The {{PAGENAME}} is also survivable in terms of fuselage strength. A single pass rarely knocks it out immediately, and seems more on-par with the [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA|Vautour IIA]] than other fighters at its rank. This strength can be contributed to the separated fuel-tanks, as well as the short engine (in relation to the fuselage). This high survivability makes the {{PAGENAME}} quite forgiving for making mistakes, as it usually isn't hard to return back to base for repairs. '''It is important, however, to avoid all damage possible''', as even the slightest fuselage damage can heavily cripple the {{PAGENAME}}<nowiki/>'s general flight performance. A badly damaged fuselage makes the {{PAGENAME}} unable to retain energy, keeping it away from its main advantage. The {{PAGENAME}} is also prone to catch fire. Although the fire is easily put out, the damage suffered is usually more than fatal.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|M61 (20 mm)}}
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{{main|Akan m/55 (30 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
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* 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon, chin-mounted (750 rpg)
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* 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, nose-mounted (90 rpg = 360 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
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{{main|AIM-9B Sidewinder}}
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{{main|Rb24|srak m/57B}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
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* 38 x srak m/57B rockets
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* 4 x Rb24 missiles
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* 2 x Rb24 missiles + 38 x srak m/57B rockets
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The F-104A is a high speed, high altitude fighter-bomber / interceptor. It performs well in high altitude flights meant to intercept fighters and mainly bombers at high altitudes. When the F-104A is fighting at low altitudes with a slower plane, the pilot should consider a hit and run technique to out-speed and return to the target to avoid getting shot back. If you need to turn, be sure to extend your combat flaps as they significantly decrease your turn time.
 
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The F-104A has a decent stock turn time of 33 seconds which is the average or decent turn time of most supersonic jets at rank VI for Russian jets. The F-104A will have difficulties when trying to hit an enemy less than 1 or 2 kilometers away using the 20mm M61 cannon since this cannon will take some time to warm-up before shooting and turn fights will also be difficult due to high speed maneuvers causing an average 8 or more Gs rendering the pilot unconscious for most of the time.
 
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Using the F-104A's M61 cannon against helicopters would be very easy since they're slow and most of the time are in constant direction and speed, while you are attacking from the side or back with speeds almost or higher than mach 1, the helicopter won't notice until you strafe at them.
 
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Unfortunately, the AIM-9B sidewinder missiles the F-104A carries are lacking at its BR. Most other jets at top tier have much better air-to-air missiles which travel, lock and turn better than the AIM-9B.  Therefore, they should only be used in situations where they cannot effectively turn or dodge, or don't know its coming.
 
  
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The F-104A isn't carrying any flares, so you would have to rely on the planes decent maneuverability, and high speed, and maybe turn off the afterburner and maybe even the engine to reduce the incoming AAMs chance to hit the plane. Always remember the insane climb rate for the plane, this means you can also face the incoming AAM at the sun even when the sun is at a steep angle. This in turn would spend more fuel since you would need to use afterburners to efficiently climb at steep angles, out-running short-range anti-air missiles are tricky since some go mach 1.7, while others go mach 2.5, do not expect all missiles to be outrun.
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This aircraft excels at being fast, it is important to use that advantage to quickly Boom & Zoom any unsuspecting enemies. Avoid utilising turning manoeuvres with other aircraft as every aircraft with the exception of the F-100D will shake you rather easily and you risk being pulled into a "reversal". Although you can easily out-run most jets, some aircraft like the Etendard IVM, MiG-17AS and Shenyang F-5 will easily catch up. These aircraft prove deadly to the {{PAGENAME}} as they will keep up with your turns if you try to evade them, not to mention they also carry air-to-air missiles which they will certainly use to force you to bleed speed (if you don't get destroyed in the process). Your safest bet is to go in a straight line hugging the maximum safe speed (concern for realistic and simulator battles) and hope they pull away.
  
 
=== Modules ===
 
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| Engine
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Good top speed for its rank
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* Excellent top speed - outruns most opponents
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* Great rate of climb; even the F-4 Phantom may struggle to match it
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* 4x 30mm Akan m/55 - incredible burst mass and damage
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* Decent high-speed maneuverability, in spite of its tiny wings
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* 4x Rb-24 air-to-air missiles - Highly potent at its battle rating
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* 20 mm Vulcan gun can really do some serious damage
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* Powerful afterburning engine - excellent acceleration & energy retention
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* Has access to AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
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* Integrated radar
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* Good roll rate for a jet
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* Above-average roll-rate
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* Resistant to high-G maneuvers (up to 10Gs)
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* Decent pilot protection & airframe endurance
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* Fowler flap design - provides excellent lift at low speeds
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Lousy low-speed maneuverability
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* Mediocre maneuverability, almost every opponent it faces can out-maneuver it
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* Only one secondary weapon load
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* Difficult to land - Landing flaps rip at 300kph
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* Can't carry bombs
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* Very inefficient air-brake design - requires high angle-of-attack or aggressive banking to slow down
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* Relatively low ammo count for the Vulcan; trigger discipline is necessary
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* Large target - Easy to hit
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* M61 Vulcan doesn't shoot instantly, takes less than a second to rotate
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* High rate of fire - ammunition will deplete very quickly, trigger control required
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* No flares to counter AAMs
 
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* As with most jets, it tends to bleed off speed quickly in sustained turns
 
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* AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles are inadequate compared to other AAMs at top tier
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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The F-104A Starfighter was the first in-service United States Air Force (USAF) fighter to fly at twice the speed of sound, and made its first flight on February 7th, 1954<ref>https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/lockheed-f-104a-starfighter/nasm_A19761017000</ref>. In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DV7q-ptOyQ&feature=youtu.be this video] from Lockheed Martin's archives, the Starfighter's maiden flight can be viewed. The F-104 began being designed in November 1952, when the USAF requested a superiority day fighter<ref name=":0">https://www.airplanesofthepast.com/f104-starfighter.htm</ref>. The USAF chose Lockheed Martin's prototype, with its unusually stubby straight wings, in a time when fighters had large, swept back, wings<ref name=":0" />. The first F-104A's were delivered to the 83rd Fighter-Interceptor squadron stationed at Hamilton Air Force Base on January 26, 1958, where they would break speed and altitude records<ref name=":0" />. One major record that was set by an F-104A was when Major Howard C. Johnson set a new altitude record by flying at 91,243 ft on May 7th, 1958<ref>https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=113</ref>.
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In the year 1948, SAAB started to develop a new type of multi purpose aircraft with capabilities such as a strike-fighter, interceptor or reconnaissance aircraft. The project was called P1150 and had the intent to replace the B18, J21A, A21R and the J30 aircraft. After some testing, a swept wing design typical for the time period was decided upon. After some testing with a Swedish jet engine design called the Dovern, it was decided that the engine lacked the desired power so a swap to the British Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.21 engine was decided upon due to its ability to produce more power without its afterburner on than the Dovern could even with the afterburner engaged. The airplane was designated the Saab 32 Lansen and flew for the first time in November 1952 with Bengt Olow as pilot. 
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A total of 447 aircraft were delivered to the Swedish Air Force from 1955 until 1960. These were modified and renovated until its retirement in 1997. A total of 10 variants were in service, including the prototype P1150.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|QAA4S31Hbhw|'''The Shooting Range #202''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:30 discusses the F-104 Starfighter.}}
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{{Youtube-gallery|6yUrv5UsiXU|'''The Shooting Range #183''' - ''Metal Beasts'' section at 00:32 discusses the J.32B.}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
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== External links ==
 
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=== References ===
 
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{{AirManufacturer Lockheed}}
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* [[wt:en/news/6519-development-j32-lansen-flying-lance-en|[Devblog] J32 Lansen: Flying Lance]]
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This page is about the Swedish jet fighter J32B. For the attack-oriented version, see A32A.

Description

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The J32B Lansen is a rank VI Swedish jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.7 (AB/SB) and 9.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.95 "Northern Wind".

The J32Bis a Swedish subsonic interceptor, combining excellent climb-rate and devastating firepower, both in terms of suspended and offensive armaments.

General info

Flight performance

The Saab J32B Lansen is a powerful interceptor built for all-weather operations. Being the descendant of the earlier A32A, this version focuses on air-to-air combat instead of its previous role as an air-to-ground platform. To achieve this, the J32B received the new RM6A engine. This engine is a Swedish license-produced variant of the Avon 300, producing a staggering 6810kgf when engaged with full afterburner. This engine was originally developed for the Lightning F.6. This makes the J32B a subsonic plane with a supersonic engine, resulting in incredible acceleration and energy retention. Staying fast and avoiding dogfights is the main advantage of the J32B, as the airframe is relatively large and cumbersome, not really meant for aerial maneuvers. However, a single pass is more than enough thanks to four center-mounted Akan. m/55 cannons, with a incredible 24kg burst mass. The J32B is also outfitted with four Rb24 air-to-air missiles capable of killing enemies far beyond the planes reach. This, combined with the incredible thrust, let's the J32B decide when, and how to strike down opponents. A luxury most planes can only dream of.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,133 1,128 12500 34.4 34.6 84.5 78.5 900
Upgraded 1,148 1,140 33.6 34.0 119.5 101.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1160 450 550 550 320 ~10 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 850 < 650 < 600 N/A

Engine performance

Thickness of each armour section located in the J32B.
Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Svenska Flygmotor RM6A 1 8,680 kg 307 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 28m fuel
1,400 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 9,491 kg 10,675 kg 11,464 kg 13,500 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 28m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,727 kgf 6,807 kgf 0.72 0.64 0.59 0.50
Optimal 4,727 kgf
(0 km/h) 		7,199 kgf
(1,000 km/h) 		0.76 0.67 0.63 0.53

Survivability and armour

  • 5 mm steel plate - cockpit floor and spacer plate between frontal armour.
  • 10 mm steel plate - behind the pilot and GIB's seats
  • 15 mm steel plate - armour plates in front of the cockpit section
  • 50 mm bulletproof glass - armoured canopy windscreen

The J32B features good pilot protection. A 50mm bulletproof screen, and plates surrounding the two pilots, reaching thickness levels of between 5 to 15 millimeters. These plates were originally meant to save the pilot from incoming ground-fire due to it's earlier ground-attack purpose. Thanks to this excellent protection, as well as having two pilots instead of one, dying by a pilot knockout is highly unlikely in comparison to other fighters of the same rank. The J32B is also survivable in terms of fuselage strength. A single pass rarely knocks it out immediately, and seems more on-par with the Vautour IIA than other fighters at its rank. This strength can be contributed to the separated fuel-tanks, as well as the short engine (in relation to the fuselage). This high survivability makes the J32B quite forgiving for making mistakes, as it usually isn't hard to return back to base for repairs. It is important, however, to avoid all damage possible, as even the slightest fuselage damage can heavily cripple the J32B's general flight performance. A badly damaged fuselage makes the J32B unable to retain energy, keeping it away from its main advantage. The J32B is also prone to catch fire. Although the fire is easily put out, the damage suffered is usually more than fatal.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Akan m/55 (30 mm)

The J32B is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm Akan m/55 cannons, nose-mounted (90 rpg = 360 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: Rb24, srak m/57B

The J32B can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 38 x srak m/57B rockets
  • 4 x Rb24 missiles
  • 2 x Rb24 missiles + 38 x srak m/57B rockets

Usage in battles

This aircraft excels at being fast, it is important to use that advantage to quickly Boom & Zoom any unsuspecting enemies. Avoid utilising turning manoeuvres with other aircraft as every aircraft with the exception of the F-100D will shake you rather easily and you risk being pulled into a "reversal". Although you can easily out-run most jets, some aircraft like the Etendard IVM, MiG-17AS and Shenyang F-5 will easily catch up. These aircraft prove deadly to the J32B as they will keep up with your turns if you try to evade them, not to mention they also carry air-to-air missiles which they will certainly use to force you to bleed speed (if you don't get destroyed in the process). Your safest bet is to go in a straight line hugging the maximum safe speed (concern for realistic and simulator battles) and hope they pull away.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 30 mm
II Compressor Airframe m/57
III Wings repair Engine New 30 mm cannons
IV G-suit Cover Rb24

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent top speed - outruns most opponents
  • 4x 30mm Akan m/55 - incredible burst mass and damage
  • 4x Rb-24 air-to-air missiles - Highly potent at its battle rating
  • Powerful afterburning engine - excellent acceleration & energy retention
  • Integrated radar
  • Above-average roll-rate
  • Resistant to high-G maneuvers (up to 10Gs)
  • Decent pilot protection & airframe endurance
  • Fowler flap design - provides excellent lift at low speeds

Cons:

  • Mediocre maneuverability, almost every opponent it faces can out-maneuver it
  • Difficult to land - Landing flaps rip at 300kph
  • Very inefficient air-brake design - requires high angle-of-attack or aggressive banking to slow down
  • Large target - Easy to hit
  • High rate of fire - ammunition will deplete very quickly, trigger control required

History

In the year 1948, SAAB started to develop a new type of multi purpose aircraft with capabilities such as a strike-fighter, interceptor or reconnaissance aircraft. The project was called P1150 and had the intent to replace the B18, J21A, A21R and the J30 aircraft. After some testing, a swept wing design typical for the time period was decided upon. After some testing with a Swedish jet engine design called the Dovern, it was decided that the engine lacked the desired power so a swap to the British Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.21 engine was decided upon due to its ability to produce more power without its afterburner on than the Dovern could even with the afterburner engaged. The airplane was designated the Saab 32 Lansen and flew for the first time in November 1952 with Bengt Olow as pilot. 

A total of 447 aircraft were delivered to the Swedish Air Force from 1955 until 1960. These were modified and renovated until its retirement in 1997. A total of 10 variants were in service, including the prototype P1150.

Media

Images
  • J32B WTWallpaper 001.jpg
  • J32B WTWallpaper 003.jpg
  • J32B WTWallpaper 004.jpg
  • J32B WTWallpaper 005.jpg
  • J32B WTWallpaper 006.jpg
  • J32B WTWallpaper 007.jpg
Videos
The Shooting Range #183 - Metal Beasts section at 00:32 discusses the J.32B.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Swedish Aeroplane Company Ltd. (SAAB)
Pre-SAAB: ASJA  J6B
Fighters  J21A-1 · J21A-2 · A21A-3
Jet fighters  A21RB · J21RA · J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F · J32B · J35A · J35D · JA37C · JA37D · JAS39A
Jet attackers  A32A · A32A Röd Adam · AJ37 · AJS37 · SAAB-105G · SK60B
Bombers  B17A · B17B · S17BS
Dive-bombers  B3C · B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57)
Export  SAAB-105OE · Saab J35XS · JAS39C · ◔JAS39EBS HU C

Sweden jet aircraft
Fighters  J21RA
  J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F
  J32B
  J34
  J35A · J35D
  JA37C · JA37D
  JAS39A
Strike aircraft  A21RB
  A32A · A32A Röd Adam
  A28B
  AJ37 · AJS37
  SK60B · SAAB-105G
Export  SAAB-105OE
Finland  ▄Vampire FB 52A · ▄MiG-21bis · Saab J35XS

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