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{{About
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| about = Italian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| usage = the other version
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| link = Z.1007 bis serie 5
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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[[File:GarageImage_Breda88.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian attacker {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]] alongside the initial Italian aviation tree.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight performance ===
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=== Flight Performance ===
 
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
  
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,600 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,500 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
|-
 
|-
| 476 || 463 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.9 || 30.9 || 6 || 5.9 || 730
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| 437 || 424 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 33.0 || 34.0 || 4.8 || 4.7 || 450
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,600 m)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,500 m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
|-
 
|-
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
 
|-
 
|-
| 504 || 490 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.1 || 29.0 || 9.3 || 7.6 || 730
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| 464 || 450 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 31.1 || 32.0 || 7.6 || 6.2 || 450
 
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|-
 
|}
 
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Combat flaps
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! Take-off flaps
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! Landing flaps
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
 
|-
 
|-
 
| X || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
| X || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
|-
! + !! -
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! +
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! -
 
|-
 
|-
| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 425 || ~9 || ~5
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 430 || ~3 || ~1
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
|-
 
|-
| < 360 || < 320 || < 400 || > 200
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| < 260 || < 270 || < 270 || > 200
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)}}
 
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
 
* 3 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, nose-mounted (375 rpg top + 425 rpg middle + 450 rpg bottom = 1,250 total)
 
 
The three machine guns are arranged and located in the nose of the aircraft. Each is armed with different amounts of ammunition, which means that when all guns fire they will run empty at different times.
 
 
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
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{{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 100 (100 kg)}}
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{{main|:Category:Suspended armaments|l1=Suspended armaments}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
* Without load
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* 18 x 50 kg GP 50 (50 kg total)
* 3 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (150 kg total)
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* 18 x 100 kg GP 100 (100 kg total)
* 3 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (300 kg total)
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* 1 х 450 mm F200/450 torpedo
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* 4 x 250 kg GP 250  + 12 x 100 kg GP 100 (2,200 kg total)
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* 6 x 250 kg GP 250  + 3 x 50 kg GP 50 (1,650 kg total)
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* 6 x 250 kg GP 250  + 3 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,800 kg total)
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* 2 x 500 kg GP 500  + 6 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,600 kg total)
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* 2 x 500 kg GP 500  + 4 x 250 kg GP 250 (1,750 kg total)
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* 1 x 800 kg GP 800  + 3 x 50 kg GP 50 (950 kg total)
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* 1 x 800 kg GP 800  + 3 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,100 kg total)
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* 1 x 800 kg GP 800  + 9 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,700 kg total)
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* 1 x 800 kg GP 800  + 4 x 250 kg GP 250  + 3 x 100 kg GP 100 (2,100 kg total)
  
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
<!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' -->
 
<!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' -->
{{main|Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)}}
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{{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)|Scotti M1933 (12.7 mm)|Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
  
* 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, dorsal turret (500 rpg)
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* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (350 rpg)
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* 1 x 12.7 mm Scotti M1933 machine gun, dorsal turret (350 rpg)
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* 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, side turrets (500 rpg)
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
The Breda Ba.88 (P.XI) should be used to attack ground targets. It can be difficult to be used as a heavy fighter as your pilot is extremely vulnerable. Try to avoid enemy planes if possible as any enemy plane that engages you may be fatal for the plane's crew. Also note this plane can carry bombs, but it does not have air brakes and or a bomb sight, so you must manually slow down and estimate the payload release on target.
 
  
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
=== Manual Engine Control ===
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
 
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|-
| Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
 
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|-
 
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=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
! Tier
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! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! Survivability
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! colspan="1" | Survivability
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
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| Radiator
 
| Radiator
 
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| Offensive 12 mm
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| Turret 7 mm
| MCGP50
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| TBC-79
 
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|-
 
| II
 
| II
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| Compressor
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
| Airframe
| New 12 mm MGs
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| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
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| MCGP250
 
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|-
 
| III
 
| III
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| Engine
 
| Engine
 
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| Turret 7 mm
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| Turret 12 mm
| MCSAP100
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| MCRO500
 
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| IV
 
| IV
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| Cover
 
| Cover
| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
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| New 12 mm MGs (turret)
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| MCGP800
 
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|-
 
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".''
  
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Tremendous fuel load (33 minutes of fuel is the minimum).
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* Reasonable armament with a high chance of igniting fuel tanks.
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Lack of armour or bulletproof glass for protection of crew.
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* Poor roll rate, turn time, rate of climb and top speed.
 
* Will absolutely get murdered in a turn fight.
 
* Plane is prone to pilot snipe.
 
* Poor defensive armament.
 
* Does not have bomb sight.
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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One of the three standard Italian wartime bombers, alongside the S.M. 79 and the B.R. 20, the Z.1007 had speed, armament, good range, and an acceptable bombload. It was used on all Italian fronts despite being of all-wood construction. Also known as the Alcione, it was designed by Filippo Zappata, with the prototype debuting in spring, 1937. They conducted combat tests with Italian forces in Belgium during the Battle of Britain in September, 1940, used for diversionary actions only. Their real combat debut was a month later, during the Greek campaign. They also flew in Africa and the Mediterranean. They were not used much in Russia. A total of 560 were built, with about 60 still in service when Italy surrendered. About 30 continued on after, now in Allied service, in the Balkans.
The Breda Ba.88 was a Italian heavy fighter bomber that was made for the Regia Aeronautica's 1936 requirement for a twin engine heavy fighter capable of 329 mph, 2000 km range, and capable of carrying 20 mm cannons. It made its debut around late 1936 to 1937 and during its evaluation it was a promising design. Standard firepower of the plane was three 12.7 mm Breda SAFAT machine guns in the nose and a gunner in the dorsal turret with a 7.7 mm Breda SAFAT machine gun. The prototype aircraft flew with two Isotta-Fraschini K14 series while production models of the plane had two Piaggio P.XI RC.40 "Stella" 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engines capable of 1,000 hp each, setting several new world speed records in 1937, with speeds in the 550 km/h range. By 1938-39 the Breda Ba.88 came into production but it would be retired in 1941 with only 149 made, after only brief service in Libya in the summer of 1940. The plane was found to perform much more poorly with an operational bombload and unsuitable for the designated role of heavy fighter/assault.
 
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
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Revision as of 04:50, 16 September 2019

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Z.1007 bis serie 3
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This page is about the Italian bomber Z.1007 bis serie 3. For the other version, see Z.1007 bis serie 5.

Description

GarageImage Z.1007 bis serie 3.jpg


The Z.1007 bis serie 3 is a rank II Italian bomber with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB) and 2.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica" alongside the initial Italian aviation tree.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,500 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
437 424 9000 33.0 34.0 4.8 4.7 450
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,500 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
464 450 9000 31.1 32.0 7.6 6.2 450

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flaps
(km/h)
Max Static G
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430 ~3 ~1
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 260 < 270 < 270 > 200
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
4,000 m 1,000 hp N/A

Survivability and armour

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Armaments

Suspended armament

Main article: Suspended armaments

The Z.1007 bis serie 3 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 18 x 50 kg GP 50 (50 kg total)
  • 18 x 100 kg GP 100 (100 kg total)
  • 1 х 450 mm F200/450 torpedo
  • 4 x 250 kg GP 250 + 12 x 100 kg GP 100 (2,200 kg total)
  • 6 x 250 kg GP 250 + 3 x 50 kg GP 50 (1,650 kg total)
  • 6 x 250 kg GP 250 + 3 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,800 kg total)
  • 2 x 500 kg GP 500 + 6 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,600 kg total)
  • 2 x 500 kg GP 500 + 4 x 250 kg GP 250 (1,750 kg total)
  • 1 x 800 kg GP 800 + 3 x 50 kg GP 50 (950 kg total)
  • 1 x 800 kg GP 800 + 3 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,100 kg total)
  • 1 x 800 kg GP 800 + 9 x 100 kg GP 100 (1,700 kg total)
  • 1 x 800 kg GP 800 + 4 x 250 kg GP 250 + 3 x 100 kg GP 100 (2,100 kg total)

Defensive armament

The Z.1007 bis serie 3 is defended by:

  • 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (350 rpg)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm Scotti M1933 machine gun, dorsal turret (350 rpg)
  • 2 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, side turrets (500 rpg)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Not controllable
1 gear
Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Turret 7 mm TBC-79
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs (turret) MCGP250
III Wings repair Engine Turret 12 mm MCRO500
IV Cover New 12 mm MGs (turret) MCGP800

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

History

One of the three standard Italian wartime bombers, alongside the S.M. 79 and the B.R. 20, the Z.1007 had speed, armament, good range, and an acceptable bombload. It was used on all Italian fronts despite being of all-wood construction. Also known as the Alcione, it was designed by Filippo Zappata, with the prototype debuting in spring, 1937. They conducted combat tests with Italian forces in Belgium during the Battle of Britain in September, 1940, used for diversionary actions only. Their real combat debut was a month later, during the Greek campaign. They also flew in Africa and the Mediterranean. They were not used much in Russia. A total of 560 were built, with about 60 still in service when Italy surrendered. About 30 continued on after, now in Allied service, in the Balkans.

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Italy bombers
Fiat  B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1
Savoia-Marchetti  S.81 · S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 8 · S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/T.M
CANT  Z.1007 bis serie 3 · Z.1007 bis serie 5
Piaggio  P.108B serie 1 · P.108B serie 2
  Foreign:
Germany  ▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 87 D-3
Hungary  ◔Tu-2S-59