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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | + | [[File:GarageImage 90 53 M41M.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | |
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− | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (shortened as '''{{Specs|pseudonym}}''') is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]]. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
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+ | ''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''--> | ||
+ | Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal fire from the front and the very sloped hull armor can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew can be knocked out by anything and the ammo is also stored there. One artillery shell behind you can one shot the 90/53. | ||
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+ | Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thin armored vehicle. Because of its layout, the 90/53 M41M separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent thing. | ||
=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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− | + | The Mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 can drive diagonally while aiming. | |
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== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
=== Main armament === | === Main armament === | ||
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− | {{main| | + | {{main|90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)}} |
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
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− | ! colspan="6" | [[ | + | ! colspan="6" | [[90/53 mod.41 (90 mm)|90 mm 90/53 mod.41]] |
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− | ! colspan="3" | Capacity | + | ! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity |
− | ! Vertical<br>guidance | + | ! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance |
− | ! Horizontal<br>guidance | + | ! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance |
− | ! Stabilizer | + | ! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer |
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− | | colspan="3" | | + | | colspan="3" | 8 || -5°/+19° || ±45° || N/A |
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | ! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | ||
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− | ! Mode | + | ! style="width:4em" |Mode |
− | ! Stock | + | ! style="width:4em" |Stock |
− | ! Upgraded | + | ! style="width:4em" |Upgraded |
− | ! Prior + | + | ! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew |
− | ! Prior + | + | ! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif. |
− | ! Prior + | + | ! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif. |
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− | | ''Arcade'' || | + | | ''Arcade'' ||10.1||14|| __.__ || __.__ || __.__ |
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− | | ''Realistic'' || | + | | ''Realistic'' ||6.8||8|| __.__ || __.__ || __.__ |
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds) | ! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds) | ||
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− | ! Stock | + | ! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock |
− | ! Prior + | + | ! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew |
− | ! Prior + | + | ! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif. |
− | ! Prior + | + | ! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif. |
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− | | | + | |10.4|| __.__ || __.__ ||8 |
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|} | |} | ||
− | ==== Ammunition ==== | + | ===== Ammunition ===== |
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics | ! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics | ||
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead | + | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead |
− | ! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ | + | ! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°''' |
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− | ! | + | ! 10m |
+ | ! 100m | ||
+ | ! 500m | ||
+ | ! 1000m | ||
+ | ! 1500m | ||
+ | ! 2000m | ||
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− | | | + | | Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC ||132|| 130 || 121 || 110 ||101||92 |
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+ | | Granata da 90 || HE ||14||14||14||14||14||14 | ||
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+ | | Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 158 || 156 || 146 || 134 ||124|| 114 | ||
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|} | |} | ||
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead | + | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br> | + | ! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass | + | ! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay | + | ! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay'' |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity | + | ''in m:'' |
− | ! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) | + | ! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity'' |
− | ! rowspan="2" | | + | ''in mm:'' |
− | ! colspan="3" | Ricochet | + | ! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):'' |
− | + | ! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:'' | |
− | + | ! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:'' | |
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− | + | | Granata Perforante da 90 || APCBC || 758 ||12.1||1.2||14|| 520 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71° | |
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+ | | Granata da 90 || HE || 850 ||10.1|| 0.1 || 0.5 || 1 || ° || 79° || 80° || 81° | ||
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+ | | Granata Perforante mod.43 || APCBC || 773 ||11.1||1.2||14|| 180 || ° || 48° || 63° || 71° | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
− | ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but | + | ''Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' |
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
− | <!-- | + | <!--''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in a bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''--> |
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * | + | * Wide traverse angle |
− | + | * Exceptionally lethal APHE shells with outstanding penetration | |
− | * | + | * Acceptable reloading time |
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * | + | * Poor gun depression |
− | * | + | * Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds) |
− | * | + | * Poor armour & exposed crewmembers in the turret |
− | * | + | * Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades |
− | + | * Mediocre mobility | |
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+ | == History == | ||
+ | <!--Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== Encyclopedia Info ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).--> | ||
+ | The Semovente M41M da 90/53 consisted of the 90 mm anti-aircraft gun mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The engine was moved from the rear of the vehicle to a central position. Conceived and built specifically for anti-tank use on the Eastern Front after it was clear Italian forces had no answer to Russian tanks like the T-34, was hurriedly designed and rushed into production in early 1942. In practice the large gun overstressed the chassis and engine, so production stopped after 30 were produced and none were ever sent to Russia. Only a handful of rounds could be carried on the vehicle; it had to be accompanied by a turretless L6/40 tank used as its ammunition carrier. | ||
− | + | Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany. | |
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
− | '' | + | <!--''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''--> |
+ | [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=italy&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=it_semovente_m41m_90 '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the 90/53 M41M from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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+ | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
+ | * ''encyclopedia page on tank;'' | ||
+ | * ''other literature.''--> | ||
− | * | + | * [[Wikipedia:Semovente_da_90/53|[Wikipedia<nowiki>]</nowiki> Semovente da 90/53]] |
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Revision as of 20:57, 17 October 2019
Contents
Description
The Semovente 90/53 M41M (shortened as 90/53 M41M) is a Rank III Italian tank destroyer
with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".
General info
Survivability and armour
Armour is not great, but the gun shield protects from .50 cal fire from the front and the very sloped hull armor can bounce shots. The back is very vulnerable as your crew can be knocked out by anything and the ammo is also stored there. One artillery shell behind you can one shot the 90/53.
Despite that, it has better survivability than what people may expect from such a thin armored vehicle. Because of its layout, the 90/53 M41M separates the crew into two different areas, the front compartment of the hull and the rear turret, with the engine bay in between. This also gives additional protection from the front side to the ammunition storage area, and so being destroyed by an ammo explosion is not a frequent thing.
Mobility
The Mobility is good on flat terrain and even on some slopes, about the same as other Italian tanks on the same chassis. Due to the 90° horizontal fire angle, the 90/53 can drive diagonally while aiming.
Armaments
Main armament
90 mm 90/53 mod.41 | |||||
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Capacity | Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance |
Stabilizer | ||
8 | -5°/+19° | ±45° | N/A | ||
Turret rotation speed (°/s) | |||||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. |
Arcade | 10.1 | 14 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
Realistic | 6.8 | 8 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||
Stock | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. | ||
10.4 | __.__ | __.__ | 8 |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration in mm @ 90° | |||||
10m | 100m | 500m | 1000m | 1500m | 2000m | ||
Granata Perforante da 90 | APCBC | 132 | 130 | 121 | 110 | 101 | 92 |
Granata da 90 | HE | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 |
Granata Perforante mod.43 | APCBC | 158 | 156 | 146 | 134 | 124 | 114 |
Shell details | ||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Fuse delay
in m: |
Fuse sensitivity
in mm: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: |
Ricochet: | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||
Granata Perforante da 90 | APCBC | 758 | 12.1 | 1.2 | 14 | 520 | ° | 48° | 63° | 71° |
Granata da 90 | HE | 850 | 10.1 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 1 | ° | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Granata Perforante mod.43 | APCBC | 773 | 11.1 | 1.2 | 14 | 180 | ° | 48° | 63° | 71° |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Wide traverse angle
- Exceptionally lethal APHE shells with outstanding penetration
- Acceptable reloading time
Cons:
- Poor gun depression
- Extremely poor ammunition capacity (8 rounds)
- Poor armour & exposed crewmembers in the turret
- Poor dispersion, especially without upgrades
- Mediocre mobility
History
The Semovente M41M da 90/53 consisted of the 90 mm anti-aircraft gun mounted on the rear of a lengthened M14/41 hull and chassis. The engine was moved from the rear of the vehicle to a central position. Conceived and built specifically for anti-tank use on the Eastern Front after it was clear Italian forces had no answer to Russian tanks like the T-34, was hurriedly designed and rushed into production in early 1942. In practice the large gun overstressed the chassis and engine, so production stopped after 30 were produced and none were ever sent to Russia. Only a handful of rounds could be carried on the vehicle; it had to be accompanied by a turretless L6/40 tank used as its ammunition carrier.
Twenty-four surviving vehicles were formed into the 10th Self-Propelled Gun Unit (Raggruppamento Semoventi), divided into 3 gruppi. It was sent to Sicily in June, 1943, and was deployed against the US 7th Army in fighting in the Licata area, losing all but two of its vehicles. These last two vehicles were abandoned and captured in Messina when Sicily fell. The few left behind in Italy were seized and used by Germany.
Media
Skins and camouflages for the 90/53 M41M from live.warthunder.com.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Italy tank destroyers | |
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Italy | |
M41 | 75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M |
M42 | 75/34 M42 |
M43 | 105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43 |
Wheeled | Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501 |
Other | L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40 |
Germany | ▄StuG III G |
USA | M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW) |
Hungary | |
Zrínyi | Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II |
USSR | ◔2S1 |