AMX-50

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This page is about the Rank IV AMX-50 medium tank. For other vehicles bearing the same designations, see AMX-50 Surbaissé or AMX-50 Foch


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General info

The AMX-50 in the garage.

The AMX-50 is a Rank IV French medium tank with a battle rating of 6.7 (AB) and 7.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". If features the same armament (and turret) as the Lorraine 40t on a more robust chassis, similar to that of the AMX M4, in sum, it is a fusion of the former's firepower and the latter's mobility and protection. It is the logical next step to the French rank IV medium tech tree.

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

This medium tank performs good in its role, being versatile enough to take many battlefield roles: flanker, sniper and ambusher. The only thing it is insufficient at is absorbing damaging shots: there are too many weak spots on this tank to take anything bigger than HMG to the front. Don't stay too close to the front line since your reverse speed will not allow you to escape sufficiently fast and flanking maneuvers will make your weak sides vulnerable.

Vehicle characteristics

As said above, this tank is literally a fusion between a Lorraine 40t's turret and an AMX M4's chassis. The lower part resembles that of a Panther's hull with its overlapping metal road wheels, its two large fans over the engine deck, its sloped front and back armour and its high profile. There are a few things that distinguishes it from its predecessor: there is not longer a "flat" portion between the LFP and UFP and the two fan casings have been removed. As for the turret, it is quite a classical post-war French design: an oscillating turret fitted with an auto-loader mechanism, a long gun and turret bulge and a thick turret ring.

Armour:

This tank's hull is very similar to that of the famous German medium tank, even in armour values. It is only slightly weak from the side, making angling quite ineffective. This armour should be able to deflect incoming shots from the weaker tanks it may encounter at its BR spread, notably the famous Russian 85mm D-5T. With its good slope, it can easily deflect APCR shots. The only thing wrong with this tank is its turret: it is very weak to incoming shots, with only 45mm sloped at 52°, it is a bit weaker than a T-34's hull. The only way to avoid being taken down too easily is to increase distance between you and your foes. Don't worry on that: your gun is suited for that purpose.

Firepower:

The SA47 L/58 is a very potent gun for a rank IV tank: it performs in a similar way to the Russian 100mm D-10T equipped on the T-54 series. While not having any -HE filler in their AP rounds, the French engineers somehow managed to optimize armour spalling on penetrating shots and muzzle velocity, making these shells very good at long-range engagements. This gun is also mounted with an auto-loader, which provides it with a solid 6.67 seconds reload time. Not happy yet ? It has good gun depression and a fast turret traverse, which enables this tank to react quickly to flankers and take solid hulled-down position, its high gun placement minimizes the tank's silhouette behind hills.

Mobility:

While not being a the fastest tank, it certainly is capable of many feats of agility. As mentioned in the AMX M4's article, this tank may be the slowest French rank IV tank, which is not a bad thing considering French tank's general dynamic game-play at this BR. "Don't put yourself in nasty front-line situations" is the best advice to follow with this tank. As it is, this 800+ HP engine should be able to carry you to any location in a good time.

Tactics

Specific enemies worth noting

Even if the gun is very good, some tanks can prove to be hard targets, even more so as distance increases. Still, there is one fun thing : Most Panther tanks can be killed through their UFP (Panther D,A,G,F).

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USA
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Germany
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USSR
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Britain
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Japan
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Italy
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France
M26E1
T26E1-1 "Super Pershing"
T34
T95
T29
Tiger II(P)
Tiger II (H)
Panther II
Jagdpanther
Tiger (P) Ferdinand
T-44
T-44-100
T-44-122
IS-2 mod. 1944
IS-6
Churchill Mk VII
A34 Black Prince
FV 221 Caernarvon
Centurion Mk.3
Stridsvagn 81
FV4202
Ho-Ri Prototype
Type 5 Ho-Ri Production
M26 Pershing "Ariete" (rare) AMX M4
AMX-50/100

Counter-tactics

At this BR, most SPAAs should be able to go through this tank's side armour: flanking tactics are very effective against this tank, even more so since it can't neutral steer (like the Lorraine 40t. Any tank that can go penetrate a Panther's hull will be able to take it down. But the most effective way to disable this tank is to shoot its weak turret, which is loaded with crew and a huge canon breech: any penetrating shot will damage a critical firing component. Even some SPAAs can take it down from the front: the commander's cupola is only 30 mm thick and there is a 20 mm flat weakspot formed by the gunner's optic: some shots can get trough that and kill the gunner and/or commander.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High penetration 100mm main gun with an auto-loader!
  • Amazing conical spread from stock APCBC shells. They are free and frontal hits will be deadly.
  • High top speed (57 kph)
  • MAC 31 coaxial MG
  • Fast turret rotation speed
  • Sloped frontal armour can bounce some lower rank guns and APCR
  • Very maneuverable
  • Great flanker
  • Higher velocity than the Russian 100mm D-10T gun, easier to aim at range.
  • Has 5 crew members
  • Wide tracks: able to cross all sorts of terrain with good speed.
  • Overlapping wheels provide extra 20 mm to the hull's lower side.

Cons:

  • Armour will not protect you from rank 4/5 guns
  • No explosive filler in shells, one hit KOs from the side are rare.
  • One choice of shell. No APHE, no HEAT, no APDS/FS.
  • Less penetration than the Russian 100 mm APCBC, with less post penetration damage.
  • Same turret as the Lorraine 40t: only 45mm thick
  • Elevation angle is only 15°: it sometimes is a problem.
  • Gun elevation speed is slow due to oscillating turret design.
  • Large, Panther-like hull, hard to hide.
  • Loader's death will disable this tank from shooting its coaxial MG.
  • Weak LFP

Specifications

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Armaments

1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon (50 rounds)
1 x 7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (4,800 rounds)

Main armament

1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 50 Shells
  • Fire Rate: 9 shots per minute
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 15°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), __._°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 38.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 50 Shells
  • Fire Rate: 9 shots per minute
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 15°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), __._°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 38.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 50 Shells
  • Fire Rate: 9 shots per minute
  • Gun Depression: -8°
  • Gun Elevation: 15°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), __._°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 38.0s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
Ammunition
Ammunition Penetration in mm @ 90° Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay in m: Fuse sensitivity in mm: Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: Ricochet:
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 0% 50% 100%
100 mm Obus de rupture 229 226 216 201 189 179 APCBC 1060 15 N/A N/A N/A +4° 48° 63° 71°
100 mm Obus explosif 18 18 18 18 18 18 HE 1000 15 0.1 0.5 1400 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-50.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
50 49 (+1) 44 (+6) 37 (+13) 30 (+20) 23 (+27) 16 (+34) 12 (+38) (+43) (+49) Turret empty: 44 (+6) no

Secondary armament

1 x 7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (coaxial)

Crew

  • Commander
  • Gunner
  • Loader
  • Machine gunner
  • Driver

Total: 5 Crew members

Armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull, Turret roof)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Turret)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 80 mm (55°) Front glacis
35 mm (61°) Lower glacis
60 mm (39°) Front cheeks
40 mm (24°) Top
40 mm Bottom
40 mm (0-30°)
30 mm (30°) Transmission hatch
20 mm
Turret 45 mm (39-56°) Turret front
30 mm (9-26°) Turret base
50 mm (7-82°) Barrel shroud
30 mm (0-55°) Turret
30 mm (0-25°) Turret base
30 mm (0-30°) Turret bustle
30 mm (6-22°) Pivot ball
20 mm (69-90°) Turret underside
20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 30 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick. Suspension wheels are interleaved and can double in some areas.
  • Tracks 20 mm thick hang on the hull sides at the crew compartment area.
  • Hull undersides above tracks are 20 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 20 mm thick.

Engine & mobility

Weight: 54 tons

Max Speed: 57 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 1550 hp @ 2800 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 28.70 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 40°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 2800 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°
Weight: 54 tons

Max Speed: 51 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 884 hp @ 2800 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 16.37 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 40°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 2800 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°
Weight: 54 tons

Max Speed: 51 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 884 hp @ 2800 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 16.37 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 40°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 2800 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°

Modules and improvements

History of creation and combat usage

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the AMX-50 from live.warthunder.com.

Additional information (links)

References


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Icon-country-fra.png AMX-50
Nation France
Type Medium tank
Rank 4
Battle Rating
6.7
7.0
7.0

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Weight
54,000 kg
119,050 lb
Number of Crew 5
Hull armour thickness
80/30/40/20 mm
3.15/1.18/1.57/0.79 inches
Statistics
Engine power (stock)
1,550 hp
884 hp
884 hp
Engine power (upgraded)
___ hp
1,000 hp
1,000 hp
HP/ton ratio (stock)
28.70
29.16
16.37
16.63
16.37
16.63
HP/ton ratio (Upgraded)
__.__
__.__
18.52
18.82
18.52
18.82
Max speed
57 km/h
35 mph
51 km/h
32 mph
51 km/h
32 mph
Main Weapon
1 x 100 mm SA47 L/58 Cannon
Ammo stowage 49 rounds
Vertical guidance -8°/15°
Secondary Weapon
1 x MAC 31 Machine gun
Ammo stowage 4,800 rounds
Mount Coaxial
Economy
Required RP 95,000 RP
Vehicle cost 260,000 SL
Crew training cost 75,000 SL
Max repair cost*
11,720 SL
8,440 SL
7,200 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
7d
12d
11d
Free repair time (Upgraded)
_d __h
_d __h
_d __h
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