AMX-13 (FL11)

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General info

The AMX-13 (FL11) in the garage.

The AMX-13 (FL11) is a Rank III French light tank with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It is the first of many iterations of the famous AMX-13. Although this version lacks the punch of its successors, it certainly offers a good foresight of what this light chassis can do.

The main purpose, usage and tactics recommendations

General play style

The AMX-13 (FL11), in line with most light tanks, shines best as a flanker and scout, due to its almost non-existent armour. Some shots against lower tiers can be bounced off by the sloped upper glacis plate and turret front, but anywhere else will get penetrated with ease. A sub-par gun without APHE ammunition means frontal engagements are mostly out of the question.

Vehicle characteristics

The AMX-13 (FL11) is the first tank with the distinctive oscillating French turret design, combining it with a low, sleek-profiled chassis - almost identical to 6.0 AMX-13, save for a few small details (e.g. exhaust). The FL11 has a smaller, shorter gun with a double muzzle-break, on a smaller turret that doesn't have the large rear counter-weight/storage and the canvas over the turret joint found on later models.

Armour: At its BR, this light tank actually has decent armour, especially in the turret front area, where 40 mm sloped at ~60° will defeat some low-caliber guns. Be cautious: although turret frontal armour is good, this does not means you can just go hull down and be safe, it will only provide you a chance to survive a shot and reposition (this tank is great for learning how to use later models of the AMX-13). As for everywhere else (but the UFP), 20 mm of flat armour is all you get, note that the upper front plate is sloped at 67°, which may ricochet long-range shots. With only 10 mm of top armour, seek company from allied AAs since your own armament does not enables you to engage aerial threats.

Firepower:

Speaking of armament, the 75 mm SA49 cannon is quite decent at the BR. Its only flaw being a bad firing arc (shell drops fast with distance), which makes long-range engagements inadvisable. Penetration rates are comparable to those of the Russian F-34 cannon or those of the British QF 6-pounder's stock shot. While not being the best gun at the BR, it certainly provides enough firepower to destroy any enemy's flank. Horizontal drive is fast, allowing for fast reaction shots in close range engagements. As for elevation angles, -6° of depression feels a bit lacking while 13° of elevation is clearly the worst thing about this configuration: you cannot engage air targets. One last thing to consider about your main gun: it is mounted on an oscillating turret, which makes stop-and-shoot tactics ineffective. Coaxial armament is the classic French MAC 31 with 100 rounds loaded and ready to turn those soft targets to shreds. A sweet addition to this tank is 4 smoke launchers located on the lower turret part's back, these can be used either to shield you and your allies from incoming fire, to cover your retreat or to hide your team's movements from enemy sight. Smoke launchers at this low BR prepares players to higher-ranking battlefields and tactic opportunities, make sure to master them.

Mobility:

With a power ratio of 26.97 HP/ton in AB, or 15.42 HP/ton in RB (stock!), the AMX-13 chassis offers mobility that leave almost nothing to be desired (reverse speed is kind of slow with only -6 km/h). With its wide tracks, even soft terrain is not that hard to cross. The only thing to consider while driving this light tank is obstacles as they can significantly reduce your speed, thus making you vulnerable and/or less effective. One could make very good use of such a fast and small vehicle by avoiding contact while making a large flanking manoeuvre, scouting enemies and popping out sometimes to take down enemies from unexpected angles.

Tactics

Scout and flank, as any other light tank should. The AMX-13 (FL11) cannot stand up to direct assaults from the enemy; it has irrelevant armour, decent speed, a useable gun with lacking depression (especially facing forward), and only 3 crew. The bad reverse speed also makes it unable to retreat behind cover once discovered, so caution in engagements is advised. It is also worth noting that the low velocity and high drop rate of its shells allow the FL11 to engage from behind slopes without having to reveal itself.

Specific enemies worth noting

Most things you encounter will be able to go through your armour without any problems, most notably from the side and back. Aircraft may be your biggest threat since you cannot fire back at them.

While you gun is good, it certainly is not suitable to most encounters. Here is a list of hard nuts to crack you may encounter at the BR, engage with caution, preferably from the side.

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USA
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Germany
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USSR
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Britain
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Japan
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Italy
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France
T14
M4A5 Ram II
M4A3 (105) Sherman
T34 Calliope
T-34 747(r)
StuG III F
StuH 42 G
Pz.IV G,H,J
Jagdpanzer 38(t)
T-34 1940, 1941, 1942, STZ, E, -57

KV-1 L-11, S, ZiS-5
SMK
Matilda II
3 inch Gun Carrier

Churchill Mk I, Mk III
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armour, beware their guns.
P40 "Leoncello" (rare) ARL 44 (ACL-1)
B1 bis, ter

Counter-tactics

The AMX-13 (FL11) has decent penetration (for its BR), however a relatively long reload and lack of explosive filler in its ammunition limits its effectiveness. If confronted head on, it is a relatively easy tank to take out - especially at higher BR and for autocannons. Airplanes could easily damages it by shooting at its 10 mm thick roof. If this does not kills the AMX-13, your allies will certainly take care of this light target you just spotted.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent penetration
  • Fairly small
  • Good mobility
  • Has smoke launchers
  • At this BR, poorly aimed shots may bounce off the 40 mm sloped turret
  • Coaxial MAC 31 MG
  • Low profile: easy to hide, helps scouting
  • Unlike most light tanks, impervious to HMG from the front

Cons:

  • Light armour
  • Does not have explosive filler in shells
  • Long Reload
  • Low velocity cannon: long-range shots are hard to land.
  • Unstable cannon pitch up when firing, makes it difficult to stay on target
  • Unstable cannon pitch up when braking, makes it difficult and slow to acquire targets right after stopping
  • Mediocre gun depression (especially facing forward)
  • Bad reverse
  • Bad elevation and no top-mounted MG makes it vulnerable to aircrafts
  • Turret area is filled with ammo and fuel.

Specifications

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Armaments

1 x 75 mm SA49 cannon (37 rounds)
1 x 7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (4,950 rounds)

Main armament

1 x 75 mm SA49 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 37 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -6°
  • Gun Elevation: 13°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), __._°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 7.5s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 75 mm SA49 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 37 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -6°
  • Gun Elevation: 13°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), __._°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 7.5s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
1 x 75 mm SA49 cannon
  • Ammunition Capacity: 37 Shells
  • Gun Depression: -6°
  • Gun Elevation: 13°
  • Turret Rotation Speed: 17.9°/s (Stock), __._°/s (Upgraded), __._°/s (Prior + Full Crew), __._°/s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._°/s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
  • Reloading Rate: 7.5s (Stock), __._s (Full Crew), __._s (Prior + Expert Qualif.), __._s (Prior + Ace Qualif.)
Ammunition
Ammunition Penetration in mm @ 90° Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay in m: Fuse sensitivity in mm: Explosive Mass in
TNT equivalent
in g:
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: Ricochet:
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m 0% 50% 100%
M61 shot 90 88 81 73 65 59 APCBC 618 6.8 1.2 20 63.7 ° 48° 63° 71°
PCOT-51P 102 98 91 80 69 57 APCBC 625 6.4 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
75mm HE 10 10 10 10 10 10 HE 600 6.2 0.4 0.1 675 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-13 (FL11).
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
Recommendations Visual
discrepancy
37 31 (+6) 20 (+17) 12 (+25) (+33) (+36) Turret empty:  () no

Secondary armament

1 x 7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (Coaxial)

Crew

  • Commander
  • Gunner
  • Driver

Total: 3 Crew members

Armour

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour (Turret base, Turret front)
  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 40 mm (67°) Front glacis
40 mm (5-50°) Lower glacis
20 mm 15 mm Top
15 mm (45°) Bottom
10 mm
5 mm Engine grille
Turret 40 mm (14-73°) Turret front
40 mm (35-42°) Turret base
20-60 mm (5-75°) Gun mantlet
20 mm (0-30°) Turret
20 mm (12-14°) Turret base
20 mm (1-10°) Turret rear
20 mm (33-34°) Turret base
10 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 20 mm 10 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are 15 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
  • 8 mm Structural steel firewall separates the driver from the engine.
  • The track and wheel on the front glacis offer about 15 mm structural steel thickness.

Engine & mobility

Weight: 15.5 ton

Max Speed: 67 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 418 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 26.97 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 34°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°
Weight: 15.5 ton

Max Speed: 60 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 239 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 15.42 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 37°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°
Weight: 15.5 ton

Max Speed: 60 km/h
Stock

  • Engine Power: 239 hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: 15.42 hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: 37°

Upgraded

  • Engine Power: ___ hp @ 3199 rpm
  • Power-to-Weight Ratio: __.__ hp/ton
  • Maximum Inclination: __°

Modules and improvements

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal drive
II Suspension, Brake system FPE Adjustment of fire, M61 shot, Airstrike
III Filters Crew replenishment Elevation mechanism, Smoke grenade
IV Transmission, Engine Artillery support, Improved optics

History of creation and combat usage

Screenshots and fan art

Skins and camouflages for the AMX-13 (FL11) from live.warthunder.com.

Additional information (links)

References


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Icon-country-fra.png AMX-13 (FL11)
Nation France
Type Light tank
Rank 3
Battle Rating 3.3

   Metric✓       Imperial   

   Metric       Imperial✓   

Characteristics
Weight
15,500 kg
34,172 lb
Number of Crew 3
Hull armour thickness
20/20/15/10 mm
0.79/0.79/0.59/0.39 inches
Statistics
Engine power (stock)
418 hp
239 hp
239 hp
Engine power (upgraded)
515 hp
270 hp
270 hp
HP/ton ratio (stock)
26.97
27.40
15.42
15.67
15.42
15.67
HP/ton ratio (Upgraded)
33.22
33.76
17.42
17.70
17.42
17.70
Max speed
67 km/h
41 mph
60 km/h
37 mph
60 km/h
37 mph
Main Weapon
1 x 75 mm SA50 L/57 Cannon
Ammo stowage 37 rounds
Vertical guidance -6°/13°
Secondary Weapon
1 x MAC 31 Machine gun
Ammo stowage 4,950 rounds
Mount Coaxial
Economy
Required RP 14,000 RP
Vehicle cost 55,000 SL
Crew training cost 16,000 SL
Max repair cost*
960 SL
790 SL
790 SL
Free repair time (Stock)
4h 58m
6h 24m
5h 57m
Free repair time (Upgraded)
_h __m
_h __m
_h __m
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