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{{About
 
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| about = Swedish premium fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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[[File:GarageImage_Iacobi%27s_JA8.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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[[File:GarageImage_S.O.4050VautourIIA.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} premium Swedish fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
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{{PAGENAME}} or the original Gloster Gladiator Mk II was developed in an awkward time, in that it was an advancement in bi-plane technology over what was already in production, however, its time was almost up even before it rolled out the door as state-of-the-art monoplanes were beginning to take to the skies and outperform even the most advanced biplanes. Though a long future looked grim for the Gladiator, nevertheless it went into production and found a place in the Air Forces not only for the British but other nations such as the Swedish.
 
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Initially a private venture by Gloster, the SS.37 started by modifying an existing prototype, the Gloster Gauntlet and outfit it with a Bristol Mercury M.E.30 radial engine and streamline the existing structure and wings to increase aerodynamic efficiency. By the time trials started, the plane was outfitted with a Mercury IV engine and then retooled for the Mercury VIS engine. Later adjustments outfitted the aircraft with a Mercury IX engine and a two-blade wooden fixed-pitch propeller, though some later models switched to a three-bladed metal pitch-adjustable propeller.
 
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The Gladiator was the last British biplane to be produced, but it was the first one to feature a fully enclosed cockpit and though it entered service with the British, it almost immediately left the service being replaced by newer-generation fighters such as the Hawker [[Hurricane (Family)|Hurricane]] and Supermarine [[Spitfire (Family)|Spitfire]]. While the British no longer found use with the biplanes, other nations felt they would be a fine addition and countries such as Sweden and 12 other countries nabbed up 216 of the remaining Gladiators. Those picked up by Sweden were redesignated ''J8A'' (Jaktplan = fighter airplane).
 
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On 13 December 1939, Sweden after purchasing aircraft from the UK including 12 Gladiator Mk II Aircraft (representing 1/3 of the entire Swedish Air Force at that time). Formed a volunteer Swedish Air unit in order to assist Finnish Forces in the Winter War.
 
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This Unit, known as F19, who flew into combat on 12 January 1940, (the first Combat mission for Swedish Air Forces in History) and whose acting commander was Ian Jacoby, was responsible for the northern parts of the country, which were saved from the worst bomb damage and the railway connection between Oulu and Sweden (which was critical for the transport of war material and foodstuffs) that they kept open and in operating condition. The fighters can be counted as having repelled at least 35 enemy bombing sorties to the northern region alone.
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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<!--''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-->
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The SO.4050 Vautour IIA is the fastest accelerating, climbing and diving subsonic plane in the entire game. The acceleration of the aircraft is ridiculous, coupled with the insane climb rate and diving capabilities makes the SO.4050 IIA a very powerful aircraft.
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The J8A is an average biplane in terms of manoeuvrability, however, it is very stiff to the controls when attempting to roll the aircraft. Though an excellent flyer at lower altitudes and at lower speeds, keeping its speed up will increase its effectiveness when engaging in turn battles with other aircraft. The Bristol Mercury-IX engine allows this aircraft to reach top speeds of over 400 kph (~250 mph) and can be a contender with other biplanes, however, it will start to struggle against early monoplanes such as the Heinkel [[He 112 (Family)|He 112]], Messerschmitt [[Flegel's Bf 109 A|Bf 109A]], Polykarpov [[I-16 (Family)|I-16]] and the Brewster [[F2A-1|F2A]] fighters. Though not as fast nor does it have the armament these do, it does have a turning advantage they do not and can sometimes make a quick turn around or tail-chase a faster fighter long enough to put guns on target and eliminate an enemy.
 
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The J8A has a very low stall speed and with the throttle reduced to around 55%, this fighter can maintain level flight at a speed of about 80 kph (50 mph) without nosing over. The vertical stabilizer is rather large for an aircraft of this type which lends itself to being an excellent aircraft for performing wing-over and hammerhead manoeuvres, especially when luring newer and unsuspecting enemy pilots into a rope-a-dope manoeuvre allowing for the J8A to immediately change direction and pursue the tailing enemy fighter which may have themselves stalled out and set themselves up to be the perfect target for an inbound J8A.
 
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,420 m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
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| 402 || 385 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 16.7 || 17.3 || 13.4 || 13.4 || 232
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! Stock
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| 1,093 || 1,091 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 32.6 || 33.2 || 43.0 || 41.1 || rowspan="2" | 900
 
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! Upgraded
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| 1,106 || 1,100 || 31.4 || 32.0 || 62.7 || 52.0
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,420 m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
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| ??? || 414 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || 16.0 || ??.? || 15.7 || 232
 
 
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==== Details ====
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====Details====
 
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! colspan="5" | Features
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! colspan="6" | Features
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
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| X || ✓ || ✓ || X || X     <!-- ✓ -->
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓     <!-- ✓ -->
 
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! + !! -
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 520 || ~11 || ~5
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| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} || 600 || 600 || 463 || ~7 || ~3
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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| < 240 || < 200 || < 330 || > 190
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| < 480 || < 620 || < 590 || N/A
 
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==== Engine performance ====
 
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! colspan="3" | Engine
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! colspan="4" | Aircraft mass
 
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="2" | Empty mass || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
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! Optimal altitude
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| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101E3 ||  2
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! 100% Engine power
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| colspan="2" | 11,000 kg || colspan="2" | 316 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! WEP Engine power
 
 
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| 4,115 m || 810 hp || 826 hp
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel
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| 950 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 11,974 kg || 13,388 kg || 14,213 kg || 21,000 kg
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel || MTOW
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| ''Stationary'' || 3,293 kgf || N/A
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| 0.55 || 0.49 || 0.46 || 0.31
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,595 kgf<br />(1,100 km/h) || N/A
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| 0.60 || 0.54 || 0.51 || 0.34
 
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Like many aircraft just prior to the break out of World War II, the J8A was not outfitted with any armour plating. The J8A relied on its engine to get the aircraft where it needed to go and helped the aircraft get into a position where the guns should shoot down an enemy, any attempts to install armour plating would have only slowed down the already relatively slow biplane which would not have been worth the trade-off.
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* 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
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* 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head.
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To maintain the centre of balance for this fighter, the pilot, fuel tank and engine take up the fuselage from the middle to the front, any attacks on this aircraft in this zone risk hitting a critical component, ending the J8A's fight in the battle earlier than expected. Though a closed cockpit may offer the pilot protection from glancing shots, it will not do much for head-on or side attacks.
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* 6 + 13.5 mm Steel plate in nose.
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* 3 mm Steel shell surrounding the cockpit in the fuselage.
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* 2 mm Steel plate behind the fuel cells.
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* 2 mm Steel plate in the tail.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|Ksp m/22 (8 mm)}}
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{{main|DEFA 551 (30 mm)}}
  
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'''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 2 x 8 mm Ksp m/22 machine guns, side-mounted (600 rpg = 1,200 total)
 
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* 2 x 8 mm Ksp m/22 machine guns, wing-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
 
  
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The Swedish Air Forces decided to not outfit their J8A fighters with the standard .303 machine guns the British typically used, instead, they opted to install four 8 mm Ksp m/22 machine guns, two mounted on each side of the pilot within arm's reach and the other two were mounted one under each side of the lower wing. It is important for pilots of this aircraft to determine at what distance they typically engage enemy aircraft at as convergence of the machine guns is a necessity to manage to effectively put as many bullets as possible into the enemy fighter. Typically in biplanes, a closer convergence setting of 100 to 250 m is best for close-in fighting, typically as one gets farther out from there, bullets lose some of their punch.
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* 4 x 30 mm DEFA 551 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)
  
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Many ace pilots from all sides of the war stated that when the enemy filled the windscreen, there was no way you could not hit, thereby guaranteeing a hit and conserving ammunition. The J8A does not have the machine-gun speed of those found on some Russian biplanes as it is necessary to synchronize the firing of the guns in the fuselage to fire through the propeller arc. With 2,000 rounds of ammunition distributed between all four machine guns, it is recommended to fire in short bursts, mainly to prevent overheating and jamming of the machine guns. Typically you can continuously fire about 750 rounds of ammunition before the guns jam up and require a cool down before they can be used again.
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The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted in the nose of the fuselage. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire together until empty.
  
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When possible, change out the default ammunition belts for either tracer belts which are very effective against other biplanes, especially those which have fabric coverings and non-self sealing fuel tanks as tracer rounds have a good chance of setting planes on fire which can rarely put the flames out. Air belts are another good choice due to the explosive filler in the round which helps to damage or disable aircraft faster than regular bullets. For those pilots who like to sneak into a fight and catch enemy aircraft unaware, stealth belts are the way to go as there are no tracer rounds to give away your position. The enemy pilots tend to realize where the stealth bullets are coming from only too late as their aircraft is coming apart and falling to the ground.
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=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AN-M57 (250 lb)|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|M117 cone 90 (750 lb)|AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)}}
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{{main|T10 121|T10 140|T10 151|SNEB Type 23}}
  
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== Usage in battles ==
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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On early maps which tend to favour biplanes and some early monoplanes, the J8A pilot has the option to decide which type of target they will go after and arm up the ammunition to do so. The J8A is a multirole aircraft which can pursue either air-to-air combat, ground attack or both. The J8A is a very effective turn fighter and can hold its own against many early biplanes, but due to its speed, it has the option to turn fight or attempt early Boom & Zoom runs. If flying at an altitude above the enemy aircraft, the J8A can selectively choose targets, swoop down on them and either zoom back up to altitude or zoom away out of range of slower aircraft before turning around.
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* 10 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (2,500 lb total)
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* 10 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (5,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (7,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (6,000 lb total)
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* 24 x T10 121 rockets
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* 24 x T10 151 rockets
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* 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets
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* 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (1,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (3,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (4,500 lb total)
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (2,000 lb total)
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* 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (1,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (3,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (4,500 lb total)
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (2,000 lb total)
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* 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (1,500 lb total)
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* 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (3,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (4,500 lb total)
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* 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (2,000 lb total)
  
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One of the advantages of this aircraft's low-speed capabilities is its very low stall speed, which lends itself to be handy when strafing ground targets. Lightly armoured targets such as anti-aircraft artillery, light trucks and some light tanks can be in reach with the J8A. When swooping in at a lower speed and attacking ground targets, after a pass, fly up in a shallow climb and perform a wing-over to immediately face the direction you just came in and begin to target up enemy vehicles and repeat. Fortified pill-boxes, medium and heavy tanks should be avoided as they will be relatively impervious to the 8 mm machine gunfire.
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== Usage in battles ==
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J8A fighters work great in teams of two or three. Fighters can rotate being "bait" for enemy aircraft, attempting to take an enemy for a tail and while the enemy if focusing on their target, one or both of your teammates then zip in and take out the enemy target and if you happen to catch them when they are close to stall speed, the easier it will be to eliminate them from the match.
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The SO.4050 Vautour IIA should be used like the [[Hunter F 1|Hunter]], but more aggressively. Always load 8 minutes of fuel, use the bomber spawn to spawn at 3,000 meters, rush to a base, drop your bombs then rush to the enemy airfield to catch enemies off-guard. Besides catching enemies off-guard, the Vautour IIA can cause the enemy team to panic by rushing - when enemy players see a Vautour going faster than 1,000 km/h and they're a lot slower - they tend to panic, causing them to scatter around to find space in order to gain speed which could possibly ruin teamwork.
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Do '''NOT''' turn. The Vautour is very bad at turning and rolling, it should be used as an exclusive boom and zoomer - like the Hunter. Gain speed, engage, zoom up, loop around, dive, rinse and repeat. The Vautour has excellent energy retention characteristics.
  
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
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Top tier jets such as the [[CL-13A Mk 5|CL-13]], [[MiG-15bis]], [[MiG-17]] etc should be your main concern. They turn and roll better than the SO.4050 does. While you can outrun the MiG-15s at sea level, you cannot run away from the MiG-17 and the CL-13 as their top speeds are higher (MiG-17: 1,121 km/h, CL-13: 1,114 km/h). Despite that fact, the Vautour outclasses them in climb rate, energy retention and acceleration. The [[Me 163 B]] and [[G.91 R/1|G.91]] are also no match for the plane's speed.
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
 
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
 
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
 
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
 
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| Controllable || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Separate || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
 
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=== Modules ===
 
=== Modules ===
 
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! colspan="1" | Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
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! Survivability
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! colspan="1" | Survivability
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! Weaponry
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! colspan="3" | Weaponry
 
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| I
 
| I
 
| Fuselage repair
 
| Fuselage repair
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| Radiator
 
 
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| Offensive 8 mm
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| Offensive 30 mm
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| SBC-17
 
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| II
 
| II
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| New boosters
 
| Compressor
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
| Airframe
 
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| Matra T10 140
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| M117
 
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| III
 
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| Engine
 
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| New 8 mm MGs
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| New 30 mm cannons
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| Matra T10 151
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| LBC-25
 
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| IV
 
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| Cover
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| Matra SNEB
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Can go up to 418 km/h
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* It's four 8 mm machine guns can quickly shred other low tier planes
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* Huge payload options.
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* 2,000 rounds of ammunition total, can fire continuously about 750 rounds before guns jam
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* Insane acceleration.
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* Very high max altitude for its rank
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* Very high top speed, outruns most aircraft at its battle rating (except the [[CL-13A Mk 5|CL-13A]] and [[MiG-17]] when they reach their top speed).
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* Fixed-pitch propeller reduces the need for manual engine control tweaking
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* Climbs exceptionally well without ordnance.
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* Fantastic rudder control for stall manoeuvres
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* Best guns in the game (DEFA 551 is better than the ADEN in RoF and muzzle velocity).
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* Very low stall speed
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* Energy retention is great.
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* Has airbrakes(which you WILL need to avoid compressing in a dive).
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* Bomber spawn (3,000 - 3,500 meters).
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* Extremely versatile (can be used in a variety of roles).
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* Insane durability, can heavily withstand fire from enemy aircraft and survive collisions.
  
 
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'''Cons:'''
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* Climb rate is slower than most other planes that rival it
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The first Gloster Gladiator was delivered to the Swedish Air Force on April 15th 1937 and locally designated as the 'Jaktplan 8' (J8). While the first few Swedish Gladiators were fitted with the Fairey three-bladed propeller, the decision was taken to switch back to the earlier fixed-pitch two-bladed wooden propeller. The first 37 aircraft were built to Gladiator Mk.I standard with a 645 hp NOHAB-built Bristol Mercury VIS2; the last batch of 18 aircraft were built to Gladiator Mk.II standard with an 840 hp NOHAB-built Bristol Mercury VIII. The former batch thus became known as the J8, while the latter batch was known as the J8A. Both types were armed with the Ksp m/36, which was a license-built version of the Browning M1917 chambered for 8x63mm ammunition. Deliveries of the Swedish Gloster Gladiator concluded on July 16th 1939, but two aircraft were already lost in service before deliveries were finalised. The Gladiators were initially allocated to F1 Västmanland in 1937 before a new wing was formed. This wing, F8, was transferred to Barkarby, north of Stockholm, in October of 1938, becoming F8 Barkarby.
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S.O.4050 Vautour IIA
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This page is about the French jet bomber S.O.4050 Vautour IIA. For other versions, see Vautour IIA IDF/AF (France) and S.O.4050 Vautour IIB.

Description

GarageImage S.O.4050 Vautour IIA.jpg


The S.O.4050 Vautour IIA is a rank VI French jet bomber with a battle rating of 9.7 (AB) and 9.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight performance

The SO.4050 Vautour IIA is the fastest accelerating, climbing and diving subsonic plane in the entire game. The acceleration of the aircraft is ridiculous, coupled with the insane climb rate and diving capabilities makes the SO.4050 IIA a very powerful aircraft.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,093 1,091 15000 32.6 33.2 43.0 41.1 900
Upgraded 1,106 1,100 31.4 32.0 62.7 52.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 425 600 600 463 ~7 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 480 < 620 < 590 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 101E3 2 11,000 kg 316 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 27m fuel
950 kg Axial-flow turbojet 11,974 kg 13,388 kg 14,213 kg 21,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 27m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,293 kgf N/A 0.55 0.49 0.46 0.31
Optimal 3,595 kgf
(1,100 km/h) 		N/A 0.60 0.54 0.51 0.34

Survivability and armour

  • 50 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
  • 13.5 mm Steel plate behind the pilot's head.
  • 6 + 13.5 mm Steel plate in nose.
  • 3 mm Steel shell surrounding the cockpit in the fuselage.
  • 2 mm Steel plate behind the fuel cells.
  • 2 mm Steel plate in the tail.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 551 (30 mm)

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIA is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm DEFA 551 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)

The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted in the nose of the fuselage. Each is armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire together until empty.

Suspended armament

Main articles: AN-M57 (250 lb), AN-M64A1 (500 lb), M117 cone 45 (750 lb), M117 cone 90 (750 lb), AN-M65A1 Fin M129 (1,000 lb)
Main articles: T10 121, T10 140, T10 151, SNEB Type 23

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIA can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 10 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (2,500 lb total)
  • 10 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (5,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 8 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (7,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (6,000 lb total)
  • 24 x T10 121 rockets
  • 24 x T10 151 rockets
  • 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets
  • 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (1,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (4,500 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 24 x T10 140 rockets (2,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (1,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (4,500 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 24 x T10 151 rockets (2,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (1,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 750 lb M117 cone 90 bombs + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (4,500 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs + 76 x SNEB Type 23 rockets (2,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

The SO.4050 Vautour IIA should be used like the Hunter, but more aggressively. Always load 8 minutes of fuel, use the bomber spawn to spawn at 3,000 meters, rush to a base, drop your bombs then rush to the enemy airfield to catch enemies off-guard. Besides catching enemies off-guard, the Vautour IIA can cause the enemy team to panic by rushing - when enemy players see a Vautour going faster than 1,000 km/h and they're a lot slower - they tend to panic, causing them to scatter around to find space in order to gain speed which could possibly ruin teamwork. Do NOT turn. The Vautour is very bad at turning and rolling, it should be used as an exclusive boom and zoomer - like the Hunter. Gain speed, engage, zoom up, loop around, dive, rinse and repeat. The Vautour has excellent energy retention characteristics.

Top tier jets such as the CL-13, MiG-15bis, MiG-17 etc should be your main concern. They turn and roll better than the SO.4050 does. While you can outrun the MiG-15s at sea level, you cannot run away from the MiG-17 and the CL-13 as their top speeds are higher (MiG-17: 1,121 km/h, CL-13: 1,114 km/h). Despite that fact, the Vautour outclasses them in climb rate, energy retention and acceleration. The Me 163 B and G.91 are also no match for the plane's speed.

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 30 mm SBC-17
II New boosters Compressor Airframe Matra T10 140 M117
III Wings repair Engine New 30 mm cannons Matra T10 151 LBC-25
IV G-suit Cover Matra SNEB

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Huge payload options.
  • Insane acceleration.
  • Very high top speed, outruns most aircraft at its battle rating (except the CL-13A and MiG-17 when they reach their top speed).
  • Climbs exceptionally well without ordnance.
  • Best guns in the game (DEFA 551 is better than the ADEN in RoF and muzzle velocity).
  • Energy retention is great.
  • Has airbrakes(which you WILL need to avoid compressing in a dive).
  • Bomber spawn (3,000 - 3,500 meters).
  • Extremely versatile (can be used in a variety of roles).
  • Insane durability, can heavily withstand fire from enemy aircraft and survive collisions.

Cons:

  • Ammo consumption is too high to make going after enemy fighters a viable strategy.
  • Compresses at high speed (similar to that of the MiG-15s' and MiG-17's infamous compression).
  • No bomb sight unlike the earlier S.O.4050 Vautour IIB.
  • Massive penalties in flight performance when carrying ordnance.
  • Bad manoeuvrability.
  • Roll rate is unimpressive.
  • Fragile engines; a hit to an engine will make you easy prey for enemy fighters.
  • Relies heavily on team support.
  • Massive target.
  • Wings tend to rip with payload on the wings above 850 km/h

History

In total 140 of the versatile and powerful Vautour aircraft were built by France between 1956 and 1959. The Vautour II-A was the ground attack variant; the II-B the bomber; and the II-N an all-weather interceptor. The first two variants saw greater service with the Israelis, whereas the interceptor was used by the French. All variants were still in use into the 1970s.

The II-N prototype, with two crew, had made its first flight in October, 1952, followed by the single-seat II-A in December, 1953. After nine prototypes, the French made an initial order for 440 aircraft, including 300 II-As. However, only 30 of the II-A would be completed, with the first entering service in 1956. In 1960, all II-A and the 40 II-B (the two-seater bomber model) that had been produced were taken out of French service and sold to Israel.

Media

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See also

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SNCA SO (Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques du sud-ouest)
Fighters  S.O.8000 Narval
Jet Fighters  S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Jet Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN
Export  Vautour IIA IDF/AF · Vautour IIA · Vautour IIN

France jet aircraft
Fighters  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN)
  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000
  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE
  Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E
  Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)

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